command to exit JAWS is Insert+F4. Command to launch is Ctrl+Alt+J if you have a hotkey assigned. If not, then you need to assign Ctrl+Alt+J to any JAWS icon either on your desktop or in your start menu under Programs. Downloading N---- is something I've never done and will not suggest nor advise. There is very likely another list with subscribers who would be very happy to help you with that question. Dave Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. ----- Original Message ----- From: Onward Bob To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 15:42 Subject: Hot key problem Before downloading NVDA I wanted to make sure I could get in and out of JAWS using Alt, f4 and the hot key con, alt, j to restart . But, it didn't work! I noticed that JAWS wasn't in my desktop, except under the unused icon list. Could this be the problem, and how would I correct it?