Re: Getting around Win amp Update freeze-out
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:04:11 -0800
Jim,
I had no idea. Thanks for explaining. Again, I'll give it a try next time it
happens but, as I say, some of the actions and keys I'm ordinarily able to
do on, say, a Web page don't have any effect in this situation. if it were
like a Web page, as I've been told, why shouldn't the tab key turn up
controls for me to press enter on like online buttons and links, why won't
my arrow keys allow me to explore the notice, and so forth. I mean, you see,
if a person didn't know this was an HTML environment, it wouldn't matter.
You don't have to do anything special to engage the Virtual cursor, anymore
than you have to do anything to get the PC cursor going in, say, Word or
Outlook Express. it's just default behavior. So I was a little thrown by the
whole thing, as if I were being told something special I had to do that
involved a Jaws keystroke to deliberately switch to the Virtual cursor. But
you sort of assumed I would get that it was an HTML environment and were
just telling me to try navigating the notice as if everything was normal,
sort of. On a Web page, that is.
Well, next time. I'll experiment. Thanks again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "jim grimsby Jr." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:15 PM
Subject: RE: Getting around Win amp Update freeze-out
Hi many programs such as Norton system works outlook express and winamp use
dynamic html for the user interface. The WINAMP update system is one such
User interface. So if you use the virtual cursor you will be able to move
about in that update system and get the information you need. Hope this
helps.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Yardbird
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 6:58 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Getting around Win amp Update freeze-out
I don't know what HTML constant is or what that has to do with a Winamp
notification window or the topic of HTML, either. I mean that literally. I
don't know. I thought I understood that the virtual cursor was what is
normally in play when I'm in Jaws unless I switch to the virtual cursor. But
if you think I need a refresher course consisting of going into the Help
files and reading some basic stuff to get it straight, I'll go do that and
see if I learn something unexpected. Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "jim grimsby Jr." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:35 PM
Subject: RE: Getting around Win amp Update freeze-out
the help topic for JAWS explains the virtual cursor and how to deal with
html constant in great detail. Far more so then I could do in this e-mail.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Yardbird
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 1:03 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Getting around Winamp Update freeze-out
Well, then please explain the actions you're suggesting me to take in order
to use the virtual cursor for this purpose. Tell me a key command or a
method. For instance, if the Tab key is irrelevant in this situation, then
is it something you mean I should do with another navigation key, like the
arrow keys? If so, what do I do? If not, please explain which key to use,
and the actions to perform. Thanks.
Thank you.
----- Original Message -----
From: "jim grimsby Jr." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 12:29 PM
Subject: RE: Getting around Winamp Update freeze-out
hi no when I say virtual cursor I mean just that. As the tab key is not
part of the virtual cursor and just passes information straight to the
program no wonder nothing happen.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Yardbird
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:25 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Getting around Winamp Update freeze-out
Hi Mr. Grims Bee,
I'm sorry to say that each time this has happened to me, I've tried to use
the tab key to find this control, which I think is what you mean by
referring to using the virtual cursor, and the tab key reveals no controls
at all. In other words, though I might like to accept the invitation to
install the update when this notice appears, I can't access the control that
would do this. If you didn't mean the virtual cursor but the Jaws cursor, I
have switched to that and looked around also, but not figured out a way to
do this. If it pops up again, I may try the Jaws cursor to make sure. But as
far as using the normal operation of tab key navigation that I think is
what's meant by virtual cursor here, it's all blank to me. I can't access
any control in that notice nor can I operate Winamp with the usual keyboard
commands.
But the notice doesn't appear every time I launch Windamp, but only
sporadically, as if by some program that randomizes the appearance of the
notice. But next time it comes up, I'll try the Jaws cursor if that's what
you meant to say.
Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "jim grimsby Jr." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: Getting around Winamp Update freeze-out
Ok another thing you could do is use the virtual cursor and go click on the
download link. It is there.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jake Joehl
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:39 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Getting around Winamp Update freeze-out
I was actually gonna ask the same thing but it looks like one of you beat me
to it! I have a sister who is also a JAWS user, and she has been getting
that Winamp update too. I'm going to forward this response to her.
Jake
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lois Goodine" <al415@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:56 PM
Subject: Re: Getting around Winamp Update freeze-out
> There actually is a way to stop this, but you have to hunt for it with
> persistence. Open Winamp and when that update window appears, close it
> with control plus f4, that is if you have Jaws. Now press control P to
> open the preferences. up or down arrow to find the general purpose list.
> Now tab, and keep tabbing till you come to something like "check for
> update" or for new versions. Uncheck this. There's no okay button, so
> just escape out of the preferences. Now this nuisance should be
> banished. At least it has so far for me.
> Hope it works for you
> Lois Goodine.
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