Unfortunately the standard for msaa isn't as well defined as it should be. My post earlier was not denying the time this would take but with open source, you can at least tell if the application uses msaa or java access bridge for java apps. You mention that many java applications aren't accessible, is that do to not enough time spent fixing the problem or does the access bridge not do its job. -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx