RE: Facebook Question
- From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 07:34:20 -0600
Hi,
Make no mistake about it, what is posted on your FaceBook page can ruin you.
One of my sons plays in a Christian band and had booked a fairly large
church for a gig.
My son got a call from the pastor telling him that the gig was cancelled
because some of the items on my son's FaceBook page were against the
church's beliefs and the church had no desire to affiliate with anyone who
would condone that kind of posts.
When my son looked at the page he found that an old "friend" had posted some
porn on the page and vented about how the various churches were garbage.
Even though my son removed the post and blocked the poster it did not good
and it took about a year before the band got another church.
Cy, The Anasazi
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 1:45 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Facebook Question
You would be surprised what can be found out about yourself years later. My
daughter told me my Grandsons mother was pregnant. She hadn't told me. I
asked my daughter how she knew this. She said she found it on my-space.
Just last week I searched for my daughters fathers name on the net. He has
been dead for 2 years. I found things I never knew that were years old.
Facts about my deceased husband, who never touched a computer are still on
the net. I know because I looked up his name as well. Which proves the net
doesn't update itself with the most current information. I heard employers
will just Google names of prospective employees to see what they find about
them before they hire them. God help you if your name is common.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Durber <mailto:d.durber@xxxxxxxxx>
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Facebook Question
Adrian:
In my previous posting, I did not mean to hint or imply, that visually
impaired individuals should not use social networks. Like you, I believe
that we, who are handicapped or disabled, should participate in whatever
activities, as far as possible in the same way that individuals who are not
handicapped or disabled do.
Unfortunately, so many people think, that when they delete a file from a
disk on their computer, an email message, or a message from a social network
site, the file on the disk, the email message, message on a social network
site, has been completely erased. As you may or may not be aware, this is
definitely not the case.
I would suggest that list members go and Google themselves on Google. You
will be very surprised about what comes up about yourselves.
One day last year, I Googled myself. There were copies of email messages
that I had posted to various lists in 2002.
There is an expression in the retail trade that says, "buyer be ware".
The same expression could and should apply when you are using any form of
communication over the internet, "user be ware".
In general, I have made it a practice, that when I receive a communication
that upsets me, is insulting to me, or makes me angry, I do my best to fight
the urge to reply to the communication immediately, although it is
instinctive to do so. In this, I have sometimes failed to follow my own
practice and regretted the decision to respond to the communication
immediately. On those occasions, I have fallen fowl of "respond now and
repent at leisure".
As I told my grand Daughter, when I was in England recently, when she was
going to write something to one of her friends that was certainly not
complementary and could even be considered libelous, what you write today in
haste, can and may have serious consequences and can and may have a negative
effect in your life, for many years to come. Luckily, she listened to her
old granddad and waited until the next day to write a much better,
constructed comment to what her friend had posted in her message to my grand
daughter.
I told her a story, which may or may not be true, about someone who had
gone for an interview at a well known corporation that wrote computer
software.
Having got the job, he then posted comments on MySpace and FaceBook, that he
only took the job because it was a means of getting a better job. He went
on to say that he would be out of there as soon as possible.
He did not know it, someone in his circle of contacts, forwarded a copy of
the message to someone they new in the company.
The following day, this individual received a communication from the company
where he had got the job, thanking him for his comments and informing him
that they had reviewed there decision to give him the job and wishing him
success in his job search.
If the story is true, I wouldn't mind betting his comments were circulated
to other businesses in the same field of business.
Sincerely:
Dave Durber
----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt <mailto:Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 4:29 PM
Subject: RE: Facebook Question
Hi, Dave.
As you can tell from the message I posted, I share your privacy concerns.
However, Facebook, like Twitter and other social networking outlets, has
become an inescapable part of life for most of us. Naturally, it's important
that visually impaired people have equal access. We must participate
wherever there is communication.
My concern is that JAWS and other screenreader users may not be alerted to
all the potential privacy compromises as they complete forms on the Facebook
website. For example, I know JAWS users who tab from field to field in
application forms without first checking the entire page for alerts and
other clues about risks.
We shouldn't discourage use of Facebook, but everyone needs to know what the
consequences might be.
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Dave Durber
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 3:58 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Facebook Question
Not respecting privacy settings, is one of the main criticisms which
FaceBook has had to face and answer in the past few months here in the US.
As has been said before, what you write in emails, in Tweets using Twitter
and on yours and other people's walls using FaceBook, never goes away.
Also, remember, everything you post on-line, gets filtered by just about
every security agency in every country. Also, remember that companies and
corporations also monitor social network sites, not only to gather
information about current employees, but also to gain information about
potential employees.
Remember, "big brother is watching".
Sincerely:
Dave Durber
----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:39 PM
Subject: RE: Facebook Question
On the surface, this isn't a JAWS question, but I wonder if visually
impaired users can tell via our screenreader just how much Facebook
compromises privacy. After everything I'd read in the media to caution me, I
asked the proverbial sighted assistant to help me create a page. I have no
desire to advertise, but I'd found that without a Facebook account, I
couldn't gain access to events and information posted by Facebook users I
know. Despite all the care we took to maximize privacy during the sign-up
process, Facebook reached into my address book and notified several contacts
that I'd joined. I got a flurry of touching requests to befriend these
contacts. I replied to all these people off-Facebook and explained my
reservations about posting anything on this website. In my case, so far no
harm done, but it could have been very awkward. Just know that what Cy and
Dave warn is only the tip of the iceberg.
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:52 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Facebook Question
Hi,
You *MUST* remember that anything you post on Face Book is public and is
available to anyone.
Even though you may mark things as private they really are not.
There are folks out there who fish face book just looking for such news so
they know who is not home.
Cy, The Anasazi
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 5:19 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Facebook Question
Not a good idea to let anyone know you're not going to be home. So if you
can't trust FB then send out E-mail directly only to your trusted friends.
Dave Created in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 16:07
Subject: Facebook Question
Howdy Facebook users,
Does anyone know if on Facebook, one can write something to only a select
group of people without having to post it as an event?
For instance, I want to let my friends from my home town know that I'll be
going to visit but don't need to let all of my other friends know so as not
to clutter up things on their end.
I thought of doing it as an event, but that's probably not the way to go.
The group is large enough.
Any ideas?
Jim
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