Bill! I forgot to mention one very important point about J-Say. With J-Say the initial training of Naturally Speaking might take a half hour, maybe longer for you. My second training of Naturally Speaking took ten minutes. Why would I want to train it again? To improve it's performance now that I know what I'm doing and to set up profiles for other users. Jerry -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx