Re: Drag and drop using JFW 7.0
- From: "Debbie Scales" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:44:01 -0400
You said:
to saving a message to disc as a text
file.
My question was how do you save more than one message at a time? What if
you wanted to save a whole folder of messages and didn't want to do it one
at a time? Or all your folders, in case OE got corrupted, or somehow a
folder accidentally got deleted. Which is easy enough to accidentally do,
then if you empty your deleted files folder on exit they are gone.
If you had them saved as eml files, then if you could drag and drop, you
could just drag them back into OE.
Debbie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: Drag and drop using JFW 7.0
Save more than one message at a time to where? I don't understand. And
restore them? What would you have done to them that they'd need to be
restored? I think I'm not understanding your definitions, here... sorry.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Debbie Scales" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: Drag and drop using JFW 7.0
How do you save more than one mesage at at time?
If you select more than one message, and go to the menu, the save option is
not available.
And how do you restore them if you ever needed to?
Debbie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Drag and drop using JFW 7.0
Well, not to embarrass you, but although I have to struggle a bit to follow
your description of the below procedures, just because I never have grasped
the whole concept of drag 'n drop except in the simple application I
mentioned (icons), this does sound like brilliant work. Almost as good as
the diabetes cure.
But I have a question about the second thing you mention, regarding OE
messages. I use OE daily, as I'm doing now, and I have no problems that I'm
aware of doing anything I think I should be able to do, whether moving
messages from one folder to another to saving a message to disc as a text
file, which I often do with something I want to keep and not have to look
for in Outlook express. I can't figure out what sort of action you're
referring to that's been difficult for you. No, I don't imagine I could
offer you assistance, probably. I really just want to be clear about what
sort of situation you['re talking about.
From: "Debbie Scales" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: Drag and drop using JFW 7.0
Yes that is an example of a way that sighted users use drag and drop is to
drag items around on the desktop. But as you say in that situation it
doesn't do us any good because we can't see the position we want to drag and
drop the item to. But often with drag and drop you have listviews you can
tab to to drop the item, so you know where it is you want to put the item
that was dragged.
But let me give an example. I wasn't going to tell this story because I
don't want it to sound like I think I found the cure to diabetes or
something, smile. Honestly, I probably could never get this to work again
and I'm still amazed it does. But I was recently writing some scripts for
someone for a recipe program. One of the windows had a listbox of recipes.
Then you had listboxes for each day of the week. You couldn't use copy an
paste, only drag and drop worked. So I copied the default drag and drop
scripts into my scripts and modified them. So you could remain on the
recipe list and press a different keystroke for each day of the week to drag
the recipe to Monday through Sunday.
Then another window you dragged the menu's you created from a listbox to
January through December. For that I made it so you selected a month first,
then only had to remember one keystroke while in the menu list and that
would drag it to the month you had currently selected.
I changed the script so it didn't say for example move the cursor to the
position, dragging to, so on, to say for example dragging to Monday, or
dragging to January. The focus stayed in the list of items to be dragged so
you could keep adding, but then you could tab to the listboxes for the days
of the week or the month.
I thought this was so cool I still can't believe it worked, ha ha.
Now one thing I wish we could do with drag and drop that I haven't been able
to accomplish. Because we really need this ability. You know how hard it
is to get emails out of OE to save them and then back in OE? Well a sighted
person can just drag the eml files to the task bar and drop the item on the
OE folder in the task bar to restore them. Or drag a mesage from OE to a
folder on your computer you have open in the taskbar.
I can't tell you the number of days, well make that weeks I have tried to do
that with Jaws.
But it always says the item to be found can't be found, sigh.
Debbie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: Drag and drop using JFW 7.0
But isn't drag n drop the way a sighted user can, using the mouse pointer
while holding down a button, slide something like an icon from one position
to another, as on the desktop? That's what I remember from when I first got
Windows and could still see well enough to use my mouse, though I didn't
bother with this feature very often. What I'm curious about is, if you
can't see where things are, how can you drag and drop? it doesn't make
sense to me. I mean, as opposed to copy and paste, which involves things
that are in delimited spaces, not floating freely.
For example, what do you use this for, yourself? Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "dennis" <dennisc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: Drag and drop using JFW 7.0
you don't need to. you just do that key combo just like coppy and paste.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: Drag and drop using JFW 7.0
> where can you go to see actual step by step ddirections for doing this?
> Thanks.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dennis" <dennisc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 11:13 AM
> Subject: Re: Drag and drop using JFW 7.0
>
>
> Drag and drop using JFW 7.0control+incert+left mouse button drags and
> drops.
> hope this helps
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pickrell, Rebecca M.
> To: JFW list
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 12:55 PM
> Subject: Drag and drop using JFW 7.0
>
>
> Hi. Is there a way to drag and drop using JFW 7.0?
> If so, how do I do this?
>
>
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