Okay. I want to put Outlook express into my start up folder. It is in the start menu! So step by step, how do I get this program to be in the start up folder? Will drag and drop work? If so,tell me the exact key strokes. not to enable the jaws or invisible curser, etc. So I tried the control plus jaws key plus the left mouse button, but MSN explorer opened! When I go to the start menu, programs and hit enter on outlook express, it opens. so this key stroke did not help me to accomplish what I'd like too. I tried the customize start menu in control panel, and selected the program to be placed in start up, but what happened was all the files in outlook express folder were listed! Dang! I am getting truly frustrated! I did have it starting before installing office, but then office decided I needed it to start, so outlook express went away. I got rid of outlook in office, but I can't get my outlook express back into the start up folder! Can someone right to me privately to explaining how to do this probably really simple task? That's what I hate about these lists, people assume you know something, when you haven't the foggiest notion what the explanation is! catlady1949@xxxxxxxxxxx add me to your MSN: Catlady1949@xxxxxxxxxxx -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx