Hi Dave You already have a perfectly good enough disc to install stuff on man, it's your hard drive. Ok, Here's a helpful guide to downloading things, this should help. This comes from the helpful hints section of the JFW Lite.com website. http://www.jfwlite.com Beginner's Guide to Downloading 1. Make a special download directory. 2. Find and download software. 3. Decompress your downloads. 4. Install the software. 5. Clean up your directory. PART 1: Make a Download Directory Downloading can get messy. Unless you neatly file away new software, you'll be buried under a cluttered desktop, lost files, and overflowing folders. To keep track of downloaded software and files, you should save them in a special download folder or directory that you can use over and over. Once you create this folder and call it something obvious, say, Downloads, you'll always know where to find your new files. To make a special folder for storing your downloaded programs, follow these steps. When your Web browser prompts you to save downloads into a certain folder, simply save them to the directory you've created. 1. In Windows Explorer select the drive where you'll store the folder. 2. Press alt F for the file menu, select new, then F for folder. 3. A folder will be created with a default name New Folder. Type Downloads over that name and press Enter. PART 2: Find and Download the Software After you've entered on a link to start a download, your Web browser determines what happens next. When the file download dialog begins, hit enter as the default is to save it to disk. When the save as dialog begins, the file name will already be in the edit field. To be sure that our downloads folder is selected: Tab to the save in combo box. Press the down arrow to open the combo box. Press down arrow to select the c drive. Press tab to move to the list view with the list of folders. Locate the downloads folder and press enter. Once you have specified the downloads folder, all your downloads will go to that folder until you change it. PART 3 3. Decompress the file. If your downloaded file has the extension .exe, it's probably self-extracting, which means it will automatically install as soon as you enter on the filename. Once your installation is complete, you can skip straight to step five. If you've downloaded a file that ends in .zip, however, you'll need to decompress it with a program such as WinZip. Here's one way to do it: 1. Locate the file and press your windows application key or shift f10. 2. Choose extract to from the context menu. 3. Type in the name of a folder where you wish to extract the files to. 4. Tab to the extract button and hit enter. **note** that in Windows XP you can do this right from within windows explorer, Winzip is not needed. PART 4: Install the Software If a file with a .zip extension contains a program called either Install or Setup that is the program to run to install the program. Check the downloaded file's readme file if it has one, a text file that contains special installation instructions and extra information about your new application. Once you know what you're getting into, follow the instructions as they come up. Software will prompt you through the necessary steps. PART 5: Clean Up Your Directory You may want to hold on to the zip file if you need to reinstall it. You can create another folder and give it a name you will recognize as being the permanent folder for installed programs. Then copy the installation program from the downloads file to your permanent folder. Then you can delete all the files created during installation and clean up your downloads folder for the next time. That's it. You're now ready to enjoy your new program. Just a note anytime you are going to be downloading files, it is important to have a good anti-virus program and to use it. Protect yourself so that nothing stands between you and discovering all the fun things you can find on the internet. -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx