Hi List members. Cross posting this question to get different feedback on this topic. I've been sending messages of complaint to GSN formerly Game Show network saying that I'm not able to play the games on the site and therefore don't have the same chance to win the Oodles points sighted people can win to cash in for prizes. I can only answer the daily questions and therefore win 50/100 oodles at a time. It would take me a thousand days straight just to win enough oodles to cash in for some prizes and that is if I get all questions right. I can't even enter the chat during GSN live and the only way I can play a game connected to the channel is to enter the GSN live games every day. They say they can't program the site they say since flash is the standard on game sites they are obviously sticking with it. It's funny how they say in replies thanks for being a part of the GSN community. I sure feel like a second class citizen. AOL did the right thing so why can't the people at GSN? even when the National federation of the blind and gw Micro or Freedom scientific are brought to their attention nothing changes. I will not accept the fact that I will never ever be able to win all that money on bingo blitz, Yeah I can't even enter those drawings. So rather than keep harping to deaf ears, the thought I had in mind is what can we do to help make GSN accessible from the screen readers point of view? Rather than making the site accessible, what can we do to make the screen reader accessible to the site. One of the advantages of using flash is that it is smaller in terms of drive space. A version of the Adobe flash player is less than two MB, Whereas the windows media player or the real player are close to or even over 20 MB. Flash does provide better quality audio and video in a smaller player. So I'd like the opinion of Jaws, Window-eyes, and NVDA users how we can make the screen readers work on the GSN site and play the games there. We can lick the recent CD baby issue as well as the Pandora issue too. of course part of my problem is dial up connection, and I'm working on going broadband so that will be taken care of soon. So the question is, if GSN, CD baby,or Pandora won't make the sites work with a screen reader, what can we do to make it work the other way around? how can we develop screen reading software to work with their sites? This is going to take people with site to do it, but I think especially with an Open source Screen reader like NVDA we can do it. If they won't make sites accessible, let's try it the other way around. Many of my friends and the members of the computer talk club of NJ are worried that the developers of assistive technology won't be able to keep up and in a couple years we'll no longer have any access to anything on the Internet. More and more sites are going this direction and I think it's up to us to change it. What can we do about this issue? I would ask that some of you take a look at that site _www.gsn.com_ (http://www.gsn.com) and if you are already registered, take a look at the wonder wheel and other games especially the versions of games that aren't generally visual like Jeopardy. There is no reason why that isn't accessible when the show clearly is. They had blind players on it. Family Feud too and why is the version of Deal or no Deal not accessible. Clearly the show is. Tell me how a blind player couldn't go on that show Huh? Let's tackle this one together. Thanks Ken. I pledge to participate actively in the efforts of the national federation of the blind to achieve equality, opportunity, and security for the blind; to support the policies and programs of the federation; and abide by it's constitution.