Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme in Control Panel?

  • From: "Gene" <guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:03:51 -0500

Welcome... it's handy as hell that way.

Gene


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme in 
Control Panel?


> Agreed.  In fact, I think I did assign NotePad a hotkey months ago, but
> forgot about it.  Just checked my start and programs menu.  Yes, I did.
> It's just that I use it so infrequently that I forgot. Thanks for 
> reminding
> me.
>
> computer vendor
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gene" <guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 2:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme in
> Control Panel?
>
>
> And if you did just assign it a hot key and go.
>
> Gene
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 4:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme in
> Control Panel?
>
>
>> Hi Dave,
>> Well, I can see how you feel.  Personally, I don't use NotePad very much
>> for
>> very much, and more often than not, I'm in Windows Explorer when I launch
>> it
>> in order to create some little file in a particular folder I happen to be
>> scrounging around in, which case I just open the files menu, hit N for
>> New,
>> T for New Text document, give the new text document a name, and click it
>> open to begin typing in it pasting something into it.  But I do nearly 
>> all
>> my typing either in Outlook Express for email or in Word for anything
>> serious.  So I don't give much thought to the relative convenience or
>> inconvenience of launching Notepad or WordPad.  don't have that much use
>> for
>> them.
>>
>> Thanks very much,
>> Daniel
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "David Grossoehme" <davegross1@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 12:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme in
>> Control Panel?
>>
>>
>> No:  What I'm saying is the next version of Windows which will being
>> coming
>> out in the future which could be later that year or eary next year will
>> use
>> a lot more memory then the present.  FW is acting like we are still using
>> Windows 9x or Me as far as I'm concerned as far as their tech's act.  As 
>> a
>> matter of fact they are giving us the same settings as they gave 2
>> versions
>> ago.  By staying with the customing menu you are forced to go into
>> programs,
>> then accessories, then notepad in order to use your notepad program. 
>> With
>> the Xp style you can just go to the start menu and hit n for notepad if
>> you
>> don't have anything starting with n to start that program.  This is just
>> one
>> example as far as the comparison's between the 2 styles.
>> Your Friend
>> dave
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 2:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme in
>> Control Panel?
>>
>>
>>> Are you saying that SP2 uses a great deal more of RAM and processing
>>> power
>>> at every moment beyond what XP without it uses?  If so, do you know how
>>> much
>>> more?  And where did you learn this?
>>>
>>> Thanks very much,
>>> Daniel
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "David Grossoehme" <davegross1@xxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 12:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme in
>>> Control Panel?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sp2 is a series of patches to make XP more secure.  If FS thinks they 
>>> can
>>> keep thinking the same thing what are they going when the next change
>>> comes
>>> about.  AS a matter if anyone has read any information on Windows next
>>> version of melhorn a lot more memory is need and I'm sure the interfact
>>> will
>>> change in a greater matter than Xp changed from windows X.
>>> Your Friend
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 2:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme in
>>> Control Panel?
>>>
>>>
>>>> That's interesting!  I'm also running SP2. Have you been told by 
>>>> someone
>>>> at
>>>> Freedom Scientific that the inclusion of SP2 in your Windows operating
>>>> system affects Jaws and dictates that you use different settings in
>>>> several
>>>> areas of Windows in order to allow Jaws to work optimally?
>>>>
>>>> My first thought is that SP2, so far as I've ever heard, is an array of
>>>> updates and patches that is primarily concerned with fixing holes in
>>>> various
>>>> parts of Windows and its bundled software (such as Outlook Express and
>>>> Internet Explorer) that are rendered vulnerable by the plain Windows 
>>>> XP.
>>>>
>>>> So, this doesn't sound as if it necessarily involves any changes at all
>>>> to
>>>> the interface, which is what Jaws functionality is concerned with.
>>>>
>>>> Anybody know?
>>>>
>>>> thanks for bringing up this idea.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 11:24 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme in
>>>> Control Panel?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I  read the Help Section and related email messages first.   I  said I
>>>> had
>>>> installed Service pack 2 so I was told (incorrectly) to use a  Desk top
>>>> Theme of Windows Classic.
>>>> I was also told that having  installed Service Pack 2  not to do  a 
>>>> JAWS
>>>> repair or remove and  re installJAWS 6  which were   my very first
>>>> questions.
>>>> The suggested "theme"  was because of Service Pack 2 which   JAWS  Help
>>>> does
>>>> not cover.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 12:43 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme in
>>>> Control Panel?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I don't think it's all that abstract.  it seems reasonable to expect
>>>>>that
>>>>> they be consistent all around, or explain why they're diverging from
>>>>> what
>>>>> Freedom has stated in its help files.  Really.  But we owe it to
>>>>> ourselves
>>>>> to do our homework and at least see what Jaws help may say on a given
>>>>> topic
>>>>> before we check with tech support for their opinions or suggestions.
>>>>> Then
>>>>> we're in a position to question their offerings, and to ask to speak 
>>>>> to
>>>>> a
>>>>> superior or escalate our question if the response seems inadequate or
>>>>> dodgy
>>>>> to us.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "jim" <jazzpiano@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 9:27 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme in
>>>>> Control Panel?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well like I said, I don't know very much about computers, I'm one f
>>>>> these
>>>>> guys who have a little knowledge and are very dangerous. grin. But, if
>>>>> a
>>>>> support guy is going to bee on line to help folks, the basics of a
>>>>> system
>>>>> should be made clear to the support people. It's not the person's 
>>>>> fault
>>>>> on
>>>>> line with you or on the phone with you, but the information they are
>>>>> given
>>>>> to work with. someone has to say, here is what it is. Maybe it's not
>>>>> that
>>>>> easy. I don't know since I am not a programmer and don't claim to be,
>>>>> but
>>>>> it
>>>>> sure is hard to do the,, " right thing, whatever that is. grin.
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "David Grossoehme" <davegross1@xxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 8:43 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme in
>>>>> Control Panel?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim:  I have to agree that it's very sad.  However, it's questionable
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> time that some of the people at FS have been using the program.  I've
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> using Jaws every since the Dos days.  I've had several go arounds 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> tech people in many versions of Jaws.  I'm not in the programming
>>>>>> field
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> profession, but if I was I'd be fired if I produced anything and put
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> production like FS does.
>>>>>> Your Friend
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "jim" <jazzpiano@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 9:10 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> Control Panel?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>> I think these are good questions. I for one, have had trouble with
>>>>>>> display
>>>>>>> settings since I purchased my M675 computer from gateway. I went 
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> windows 98 to XP pro and Jaws 6 pro. I tried to set up my display
>>>>>>> settings
>>>>>>> for maximum efficiency, and now I see that even FS doesn't know what
>>>>>>> settings should be used for Jaws. I am certainly no computer expert,
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> noted by the questions I have posted to this list, but I am sending 
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> copy
>>>>>>> of this email to FS support and see what response I get from them. I
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> that perhaps on this list, there are folks who know Jaws better than
>>>>>>> FS
>>>>>>> does. Kind of sad isn't it?
>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 7:02 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> Control Panel?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does anyone happen to know what a theme setting actually is?  Does
>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>> know in what ways these settings differ from each other so far as
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Jaws
>>>>>>>> user ought to be concerned?  Does anyone know what this "stretch"
>>>>>>>> item
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> that tab of the Appearance menus means?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm partially sighted in such a way as to be able to make out only
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> these "themes" seem to be a variety of decorative designs for your
>>>>>>>> otherwise
>>>>>>>> blank Desktop, meaning the area aside from the vertical rows of
>>>>>>>> shortcut
>>>>>>>> icons.  But I can't clearly see their details, so it's hard to 
>>>>>>>> guess
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> difference Freedom is saying, with one voice or another, they make
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> terms
>>>>>>>> of Jaws's accuracy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 5:33 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> Control Panel?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chris,  That is why I  posted what I did!  The Tech Support guy not
>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>> contradicted the written -
>>>>>>>> so  people can be aware "in advance"  that  thus far I have seen 3
>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>> "theme" settings recommended in writing or verbally by Tech Support
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> you are dead right about this;  it  will confuse morethan help.
>>>>>>>> ---- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 2:52 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> Control Panel?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> well, aparently those tech support guys don't know what in hell
>>>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>>> talking about, especially since FS recommended the settings
>>>>>>>>> themselves,
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> if the tech support is telling people that, it will definitely
>>>>>>>>> confuse
>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>> people. the help says to do one thing but the tech support says
>>>>>>>>> another.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At 11:16 PM 3/18/2005, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks. Ia sked as some at Tech Support are sayig "no" to
>>>>>>>>>>XPModifiedand
>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>thought you could do as you are doing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 11:48 PM
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop 
>>>>>>>>>>theme
>>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>Control Panel?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > I'm using xp modified, just as it says in the help for setting
>>>>>>>>>> > up
>>>>>>>>>> > XP
>>>>>>>>>> > for
>>>>>>>>>> > optomal JAWS use, and have absolutely no issues here 
>>>>>>>>>> > whatsoever.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > At 08:13 PM 3/18/2005, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> >>I have heard that somep eople can use
>>>>>>>>>> >>XP Modified as their Desk top theme under Control Panel
>>>>>>>>>> >>"Display"
>>>>>>>>>> >>themes.
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>Ando thers are using Windows classic.
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>Forthose using XP Moified, have you encountered issues using
>>>>>>>>>> >>Service
>>>>>>>>>> >>Pack
>>>>>>>>>> >>2?
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>
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