Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme in Control Panel?
- From: "David Grossoehme" <davegross1@xxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:20:16 -0600
Sp2 is a series of patches to make XP more secure. If FS thinks they can
keep thinking the same thing what are they going when the next change comes
about. AS a matter if anyone has read any information on Windows next
version of melhorn a lot more memory is need and I'm sure the interfact will
change in a greater matter than Xp changed from windows X.
Your Friend
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme in
Control Panel?
> That's interesting! I'm also running SP2. Have you been told by someone
> at
> Freedom Scientific that the inclusion of SP2 in your Windows operating
> system affects Jaws and dictates that you use different settings in
> several
> areas of Windows in order to allow Jaws to work optimally?
>
> My first thought is that SP2, so far as I've ever heard, is an array of
> updates and patches that is primarily concerned with fixing holes in
> various
> parts of Windows and its bundled software (such as Outlook Express and
> Internet Explorer) that are rendered vulnerable by the plain Windows XP.
>
> So, this doesn't sound as if it necessarily involves any changes at all to
> the interface, which is what Jaws functionality is concerned with.
>
> Anybody know?
>
> thanks for bringing up this idea.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 11:24 AM
> Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme in
> Control Panel?
>
>
> Hi,
> I read the Help Section and related email messages first. I said I had
> installed Service pack 2 so I was told (incorrectly) to use a Desk top
> Theme of Windows Classic.
> I was also told that having installed Service Pack 2 not to do a JAWS
> repair or remove and re installJAWS 6 which were my very first
> questions.
> The suggested "theme" was because of Service Pack 2 which JAWS Help
> does
> not cover.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 12:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme in
> Control Panel?
>
>
>>I don't think it's all that abstract. it seems reasonable to expect that
>> they be consistent all around, or explain why they're diverging from what
>> Freedom has stated in its help files. Really. But we owe it to
>> ourselves
>> to do our homework and at least see what Jaws help may say on a given
>> topic
>> before we check with tech support for their opinions or suggestions.
>> Then
>> we're in a position to question their offerings, and to ask to speak to a
>> superior or escalate our question if the response seems inadequate or
>> dodgy
>> to us.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "jim" <jazzpiano@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 9:27 AM
>> Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme in
>> Control Panel?
>>
>>
>> Well like I said, I don't know very much about computers, I'm one f these
>> guys who have a little knowledge and are very dangerous. grin. But, if a
>> support guy is going to bee on line to help folks, the basics of a system
>> should be made clear to the support people. It's not the person's fault
>> on
>> line with you or on the phone with you, but the information they are
>> given
>> to work with. someone has to say, here is what it is. Maybe it's not that
>> easy. I don't know since I am not a programmer and don't claim to be, but
>> it
>> sure is hard to do the,, " right thing, whatever that is. grin.
>> Jim
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Grossoehme" <davegross1@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 8:43 AM
>> Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme in
>> Control Panel?
>>
>>
>>> Jim: I have to agree that it's very sad. However, it's questionable on
>>> the
>>> time that some of the people at FS have been using the program. I've
>>> been
>>> using Jaws every since the Dos days. I've had several go arounds with
>>> their
>>> tech people in many versions of Jaws. I'm not in the programming field
>>> as
>>> a
>>> profession, but if I was I'd be fired if I produced anything and put
>>> into
>>> production like FS does.
>>> Your Friend
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "jim" <jazzpiano@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 9:10 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme in
>>> Control Panel?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Daniel,
>>>> I think these are good questions. I for one, have had trouble with
>>>> display
>>>> settings since I purchased my M675 computer from gateway. I went from
>>>> windows 98 to XP pro and Jaws 6 pro. I tried to set up my display
>>>> settings
>>>> for maximum efficiency, and now I see that even FS doesn't know what
>>>> settings should be used for Jaws. I am certainly no computer expert, as
>>>> noted by the questions I have posted to this list, but I am sending a
>>>> copy
>>>> of this email to FS support and see what response I get from them. I
>>>> think
>>>> that perhaps on this list, there are folks who know Jaws better than FS
>>>> does. Kind of sad isn't it?
>>>> Jim
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 7:02 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme in
>>>> Control Panel?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone happen to know what a theme setting actually is? Does
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> know in what ways these settings differ from each other so far as the
>>>>> Jaws
>>>>> user ought to be concerned? Does anyone know what this "stretch"
>>>>> item
>>>>> on
>>>>> that tab of the Appearance menus means?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm partially sighted in such a way as to be able to make out only
>>>>> that
>>>>> these "themes" seem to be a variety of decorative designs for your
>>>>> otherwise
>>>>> blank Desktop, meaning the area aside from the vertical rows of
>>>>> shortcut
>>>>> icons. But I can't clearly see their details, so it's hard to guess
>>>>> what
>>>>> difference Freedom is saying, with one voice or another, they make in
>>>>> terms
>>>>> of Jaws's accuracy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 5:33 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme in
>>>>> Control Panel?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris, That is why I posted what I did! The Tech Support guy not
>>>>> only
>>>>> contradicted the written -
>>>>> so people can be aware "in advance" that thus far I have seen 3
>>>>> different
>>>>> "theme" settings recommended in writing or verbally by Tech Support
>>>>> and
>>>>> you are dead right about this; it will confuse morethan help.
>>>>> ---- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 2:52 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme in
>>>>> Control Panel?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> well, aparently those tech support guys don't know what in hell
>>>>>> they're
>>>>>> talking about, especially since FS recommended the settings
>>>>>> themselves,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> if the tech support is telling people that, it will definitely
>>>>>> confuse
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> people. the help says to do one thing but the tech support says
>>>>>> another.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 11:16 PM 3/18/2005, you wrote:
>>>>>>>Thanks. Ia sked as some at Tech Support are sayig "no" to
>>>>>>>XPModifiedand
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>thought you could do as you are doing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 11:48 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Curious; is any one using XP Modified as Desktop theme
>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>Control Panel?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > I'm using xp modified, just as it says in the help for setting up
>>>>>>> > XP
>>>>>>> > for
>>>>>>> > optomal JAWS use, and have absolutely no issues here whatsoever.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > At 08:13 PM 3/18/2005, you wrote:
>>>>>>> >>Hi,
>>>>>>> >>I have heard that somep eople can use
>>>>>>> >>XP Modified as their Desk top theme under Control Panel "Display"
>>>>>>> >>themes.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>Ando thers are using Windows classic.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>Forthose using XP Moified, have you encountered issues using
>>>>>>> >>Service
>>>>>>> >>Pack
>>>>>>> >>2?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
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