Re: [Bulk] Re: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?

  • From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:01:29 -0500

Farfar:

You do not have to delete the text in the File Edit box before pasting the text 
you saved to the clipboard.  This is because the text in the File Edit box is 
already highlighted.  So, as long as you do not, or have not moved the cursor 
with the LEFT or RIGHT ARROW keys, the text in the File Edit box is 
highlighted.  when you paste the text from the clipboard into the File Edit 
box, by pressing CTRL+V, the text in the File Edit box is deleted and is 
replaced by the pasted text.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Farfar Carlson 
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 12:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?


  Yes, that will always happen. If you select an actual file as you search 
through your folders, it will populate the filename field.

  One way around it is right after I type in the filename, I highlight it and 
Ctrl-C to copy it. Then I search around for the folder where I want to put it. 
Then even if the filename gets overwritten, I just delete it and paste in the 
copy and hit Enter.

  Usually when you search through folders, the folders are at the top of the 
list, so it's rare that you end up with a filename. As long as you're landing 
on folder names and pressing Enter to open them you will not overwrite the 
filename. IF you do open a folder with no other sub-folders, the filename at 
the top will not be selected, and so if you don't hit any more letters, you 
will not overwrite the filename. And if that is the folder you want, then tab 
to the filename field and press Enter, since your filename has not yet been 
overwritten.

  Takes some patience and attention, but once you get the idea, you usually 
won't have a problem.

  Dave
  Created in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Brandon Keith 
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 21:29
    Subject: [Bulk] Re: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?


    Well, what happens with point 10 is:
    (If you do this it should happen to you):
    I hit ctrl S to save,
    type in say "notes October 20)
    shift tab to the folder view and hit m to get to mcollege folder.
    Then I hit enter, hit e for English then hit enter,
    hit n for notes, but because notes is the first folder and is unselected 
when I open the English folder, it goes to a document called "New readings"
    Now my "Notes October 20" is called "New readings" and I need to tab back 
and type in the name "Notes October 20".

    This is very annoying if I'm not sure how to spell the word my document is 
titled, or if the title is very long.
    Hope this clarifies my question.
    Thank you,

    Brandon Keith

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    From: Adrian Spratt 
    Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 11:57 AM
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Subject: RE: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?


    Yadiel's solution for point 3 is useful information, but it assumes that 
Brandon wants the font type and size to be consistent throughout. This is 
unlikely if he's using indented text for quotations in an academic paper.

    Absolutely, double asterisks as markers should not be kept in the final 
version of a paper. 

    If you correctly interpret Brandon's point 10, another solution is to open 
only one document at a time. This is hardly ideal, but it avoids mental and 
filename confusion when the mind is preoccupied with numerous other document 
questions. for that reason, I often do just that, and it's been years since I 
misnamed a document, thereby losing my data.



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    From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of G.W. Cox
    Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 2:41 PM
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: Re: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?


    Point 3 would be vanquished by formatting the whole document as Sr. 
Sotomayor reported.

    I would use bookmarks for annotation or footnotes if it is to be more 
formal.

    I believe No. 10 is when you are in the process of saving a document and 
start to cursor in the target file. Whatever file name that gains focus will be 
reflected as the new file's saved name. One just needs to be more careful in 
that dialogue.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Adrian Spratt 
      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 7:16 AM
      Subject: RE: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?


      Brandon,

      I'm going to leave it to others to make suggestions in response to your 
specific MS Word questions, since I use another word processor, but a few 
thoughts.

      Your third concern is about fonts. Undoubtedly the cause is that you are 
copying quotations from other sources, such as the Internet. It is important to 
clean up any copied passage before pasting it into a Word document. The program 
I use is Text Monkey, available at 
      www.jfwlite.com
      I don't know which OS you're using. Text Monkey works on XP. I can't 
speak for later operating systems.

      As discussed in a previous exchange, Notepad will also strip out codes, 
including formatting controls. You might use that application for your initial 
paste, then copy the result into your Word document.

      for your second concern, open MS word and then look through your insert-v 
options. 

      Some of your points are confusing to me. In your fifth, are you asking 
about a template or how to insert works cited within a document so that JAWS 
will read it during, for example, say all? 

      In your seventh point, what exactly are you looking for JAWS to report? I 
know I'm at the end of a document when the status line (JAWS key-3) tells me 
the page and line number that matches the number for the entire document.

      I'm at a loss to answer your ninth point. A double asterisk always works 
for me. Could it be that your annotation appears in a different format that 
confuses either Word or JAWS? I sometimes encounter something like that.

      Finally, I think you need to clarify your tenth point. You talk about the 
document name changing while switching between documents. Can you explain step 
by step what occurs?



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      From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Brandon Keith
      Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 11:08 PM
      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: Re: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?


      I'm using word 2003.
      I'm also wondering if there is any way to get rid of a few problems I've 
been having.
      First:
      in word when I copy and paste a word that is misspelled word freezes up.
      Second:
      When I copy WebPages or emails into word I have to remember to do that 
paste special and even then http links don't work always. Is there a way so 
ctrl V always does paste unformatted text in word? (I never have ever needed 
formatted text).
      Third:
      I'm told that sometimes my papers are at least 5 different fonts and 
sizes. I'm wondering if there is any way to easily fix this without removing 
say the MLA formatted titles or page numbers?
      Fourth:
      Are there any settings that should be on in word for writing MLA?
      Fifth:
      where is the best place to make a works sited page done that is very 
accessible with Jaws?
      Sixth:
      is there any way to jump to headings in a word document?
      seventh:
      sometimes my word doesn't read the last line on the page when I'm writing 
and alt tabbing through different windows. When I arrow up it takes like a 
second before it starts reading and then when I hit ctrl end I can't confirm 
I'm actually at the end of the document.
      eighth:
      is there any way to easily navigate an e-text book in Word? Jump to pages 
or find out what page of the book you are on without having to arrow through 
the pages hoping the page numbers are actually there?
      And if there are 7 different 34s in the book it can be really hard to 
find out which number is the actual page, especially if all of them are at the 
end of the lines.
      ninth:
      Has anyone been able to find a way to efficiently annotate books in a 
word document? I've used cymbals such as *~* to mark quotes, but on the find it 
doesn't always read the quote it's marking when I go through them.
      Tenth:
      Does anyone know how to tern off the function that replaces a document's 
name in the save feature? If I go over another document when I'm trying to save 
something the name I have already typed in the title field gets changed. I hate 
this the most about my computer atm... So if this could be fixed it would be a 
godsend!

      Sorry for all the questions, I've just been thrashing walls trying to 
answer many of these questions for the last 3 years and never have found the 
answers .
      Thank you,

      Brandon Keith

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      From: Yadiel Sotomayor 
      Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 7:35 PM
      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Subject: Re: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?


      Didn't knw that bit of paste special. I will remember that for next time. 

      Yadiel


      From: Robert Logue 
      Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 10:03 PM
      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Subject: Re: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?


      http://www.jarte.com/

      Jarte has a nice spell checker but not a thesaurus.  However, you can 
press control+d on a word to go to the wordweb entry for that word.

      Jarte detects screen readers and configures it's interface for blind 
users.

      There is a free version and a low cost paid version.  I used the free one 
for a long time.  Check it out.

      Bob


        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Brandon Keith 
        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 7:00 PM
        Subject: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?


        Hello, 
        I was told and found that Notepad works way better with Jaws than Word 
does.
        But I'm writing papers and whatnot in Notepad, but there is no 
thesaurus and I don't believe any spellchecker.
        Is there any way to beef up Notepad? Or are there any other text 
editors that have the features of word?
        Thank you,

        Brandon Keith

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        Also add me on facebook! 
        brandonkeith


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