Re: Control Panel Sounds tab (long winded weather advisory; was top and bottom alert)
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:59:20 -0700
Thanks, bob. I was just trying to be helpful and learn something myself in
the process. No worries, as our aussie mates like to say. :-)
----- Original Message -----
From: "RAWest" <rawest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: Control Panel Sounds tab (long winded weather advisory; was top
and bottom alert)
No problem
I read your mail and thought you put allot of time in to composing your
thoughts on the windows sounds and how to change them.
I did not see the rest of the thread. Your mail was not a reply to a
continuing thread so I assumed you were having a problem and was having
difficulty correcting an issue.
Please forgive me if you feel in some way I have insulted you that was not
my
objective.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: Control Panel Sounds tab (long winded weather advisory; was top
and bottom alert)
Dear Mr. West,
I was offering some information beyond the simplified thing I saw earlier.
If you aren't interested to learn how that function works, that's okay with
me. But I was sharing some knowledge I took my time to learn in order to
provide to others who may have gotten the wrong impression from an earlier
couple of shorter messages in this thread. Okay? Why ask me what I'm trying
to achieve? Is there some sort of problem?
Thanks very much.
----- Original Message -----
From: "RAWest" <rawest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: Control Panel Sounds tab (long winded weather advisory; was top
and bottom alert)
wow that was a keyboard full...
What are you trying to achieve
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 2:43 PM
Subject: Control Panel Sounds tab (long winded weather advisory; was top and
bottom alert)
Hi,
I just took a look at this area of the Control Panel in order to see what
Richard was referring to. What I found was a little different on my XP Home
system than he may be seeing on his computer. When I pressed enter to go
into Sounds and audio Devices, I arrived at a set of maybe half a dozen tab
pages, and the first tab I landed on was Volume, which allows access to the
same adjustments you can make via the Volume icon in the system tray.
Control tabbing once more took me to the sounds page. Tabbing through it, I
did come upon a combo box that included a choice of no sounds, or Windows
default, or a blank option that probably didn't say anything because I'd
never created and saved an additional sound scheme.
Now, this isn't all there is to the Sounds dialogue. If you tab again, you
come to a tree view that begins with the category Windows at level zero,
under which there's a long list of standard events for which Windows
supposedly sounds off with one tone or another. Many of the things I have
never heard a sound for, myself. Others, like the dreaded top or bottom of
list or page sound, or the Windows startup or shutdown sound, I certainly
have heard. But whatever. Turns out they could be assigned a sound if you
wanted to do that. More about which, later.
Now you arrow up and down the listed events for which there's an available
sound. When you come upon one you want to either change to another sound or
simply silence, you tab, and find yourself in a dialogue that to me is too
confusing to deal with using Jaws right now but I'm sure can be managed with
instruction or experimentation. But what it offers is a way to choose from a
whole list of sound effects, which you can try out by pressing the right
button, or to choose "none." Then there's a control to save your change, and
it seems to be labeled clearly enough though I didn't try anything.
anyway, I think you make whatever changes you wish to make to all these
sounds in the Windows category (or in the category for Windows Explorer, or
several other Windows programs and utilities as well) and then, back in the
main page, you find the save or save as dialogue and save your customized
sound scheme, either with a new name or, I suppose if you wish, to the
default file,. Like many other save or save as dialogues. Then you press OK,
I think, to make the changes stick and exit the Sounds dialogue.
Now, a couple more things. First to stress that even though I can't explain
exactly how to do all this right, it is the way you're allowed to fiddle
with your sounds, turning off a few or changing others, just the way you can
customize levels of verbosity in the jaws configuration manager. it's not an
all or nothing choice, as has been claimed here recently, like if you turn
off that end of page sound, you'll be turning off all sounds in Windows and
never hear error messages, the sound of Windows booting up, or anything
else. That isn't true. No sounds would be, I should think, a choice only
someone with good enough sight to see what's going on on their screen could
make in good conscience. Personally, I'd find it very inconvenient, if not
disabling. But as I've said, this isn't an all or nothing situation, as it
sounded at first.
Second, and I might have been able to figure this stuff out if I'd tried, is
that arrowing down the lists of events to which a sound can be assigned, I
didn't understand what some of the events were, in the Windows terminology
given. So you have to be clear what category an event is in order to change
its sound or silence it.
the sounds themselves, when you get into that area to choose one, are .wav
files with usually self-explanatory file names, like bing!.wav or
boom!.ewav. Just kidding about the "boom" one. But it's an amazing array of
sound effects, some of which most of us have already heard, others of which
I'm not sure I know, yet.
So, if I were to mess around with this dialogue for real, rather than just
take the option to shut off all sound, I'd want someone to explain how this
works and how to navigate it best with Jaws. But still, this is the real
Sounds tab, not just an on and off dealie.
Hope this helps.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard sherman" <squirman@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "JFW Discussion List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: top and bottom alert
Hi,
Did you ever get an answer to this query? If not, Here's how (I believe):
Go to Control Panel.
Find sounds and audio components and hit enter.
Go to the sounds tab and press the tab key approximately 4 times. you will
be in a tree view.
Arrow down until you hear "default beep".
Press the tab key once more.
Move the arrow key down and up until you hear "none".
Tab again until you are on ok and hit enter.
Exit out of control panel and the beep should be gone.
Rich
----- Original Message -----
From: dennis
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:51 AM
does anybody know how to get rid of the top and bottom alert permanently in
jaws8? its giving me fits.
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