Re: Clarification update versus upgrade (was RE: New JFW Update Coming This Afternoon)
- From: Bruce Toews <coke_drinker@xxxxxxxx>
- To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:40:07 -0600 (CST)
Okay, I think this discussion has pretty much run its course. Please take
it to private e-mail if you want to continue it. The fact is: FS is not,
nor have they ever, called this a patch. They will, in fact, be quick to
point out that this is *not* a patch. So going in circles about what is or
is not a patch is kind of irrelevant. FS is calling this an update. It is
a fully-installable update, but an update nonetheless.
Bruce
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Quanin wrote:
> IMO both terms (update and patch) are interchangeable in that, as you said,
> an update can be either. same right, so can a patch. As I said in another
> post, it's also been set up to let people who are newly upgrading to 5.0
> download the actual program itself. Either way it points you to the same
> file for download. It just checks to see if you're already running 5.0 or
> not first.
>
> James
>
> At 02:41 PM 12/03/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >actually, it gets even more interesting. A patch is always labeled as a
> >patch and is usually not a stand alone install. An update can be in patch
> >form or can be installed from scratched or used to update a current version.
> >An upgrade can be part of a free process and that may be a minor upgrade. A
> >major upgrade can range up to a major rewrite of the software. There's all
> >kinds of things that can happen in this area. Because it was not merely a
> >bug fix and because it can be installed as a stand alone, this is an update
> >not a patch.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Quanin" <quanin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 2:32 PM
> >Subject: Re: Clarification update versus upgrade (was RE: New JFW Update
> >Coming This Afternoon)
> >
> >
> >There were bug fixes with relative to stability issues, and a few minor
> >script updates. Nothing to class this version of JAWS as an upgrade, which
> >is why it wasn't released as its own version.
> >
> >James
> >
> >At 02:21 PM 12/03/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > >right, but in this case, there were more than bug fixes.
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Quanin" <quanin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 2:09 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Clarification update versus upgrade (was RE: New JFW Update
> > >Coming This Afternoon)
> > >
> > >
> > >In coding/programming terms, 'patch' = 'bug fix'.
> > >
> > >James
> > >
> > >At 01:35 PM 12/03/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >yeah, but I wouldn't call this a patch.
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Quanin" <quanin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 12:32 PM
> > > >Subject: Clarification update versus upgrade (was RE: New JFW Update
> >Coming
> > > >This Afternoon)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Here's a bit of a distinguisher that, I think, helps to differentiate
> > > >betwen 'upgrade' and 'update', with regards JFW. The installation
> >released
> > > >yesterday is simply an update, or patch, to version 5.0. It will work
> >using
> > > >the authorisation you have currently for that version, you need not buy
> > > >another JFW program, or worry about the status of your SMA. Think of it
> >as
> > > >simply a version of the program released that fixes bugs in the current
> > > >version. There are not enough fixes to warrant a complete new version of
> > > >JFW, or enough new features for such. This leads to my second point. An
> > > >'upgrade' is just that. You would be expected to, for instance, purchase
> >a
> > > >new copy of JFW, or have the copy you install count against your SMA.
> > > >Generally, when versions of this nature are released, it's more than just
> >a
> > > >minor fix to stability, or a few script updates, but it's usually
> > > >implementation of a few new features at the same time, such as place
> > > >markers when the first 5.0 version came out. I hope this sort of explains
> > > >things with regard this issue. If not, feel free to talk to me off-list.
> > > >
> > > >James
> > > >
> > > >
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