Re: Burning a CD Accessibly with Easy CD-Da Extractor
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 11:36:26 -0700
Hi Debbie,
Thank you for both your interest and your suggestion about using the
program. Thank you also for your gentle instruction about how to best get
oriented to a program in order to assess how to work it, if possible, using
jaws. Just one thing-- I always check out all the menus in a program, and I
always read the help files to get the basic understanding of how the
program's supposed to be used. In addition, with this program, I learned
everything that could be learned using the PC cursor on the interface, in
other words, I was able to use it to rip tracks from a CD (because the
controls are quite visible and obvious, and the way you get the tracks into
the list box of files to be ripped is simply by inserting the CD in the
drive). Just for example. I don't even need to be told to use a single-key
command like F8 to rip or perform other actions, because I have discovered
it in its menu, but I also know the option is there but I also know how to
find the button on the interface. I am absolutely a careful, context-type
Jaws user who always knows a program's menus and knows what a hotkey
command is actually doing, and that is far different, and far less
mystified, than a lot of people I'm aware of who learn all their computer
procedures as isolated keystrokes and have no idea what's going on around
these actions, or what they're part of or related to. Not lazy, not stupid.
But I do tend to think inside the box, as they say, and so never thought of
the context menu in regard to these things, though someone else would
certainly make the connection-- "Wow, if the context menu often provides me
with a simple list of actions to perform in a program, I'll bet for someone
like me, who sometimes can't navigate some elements of a program interface,
that context menu might be a way to sort of cheat and accomplish the same
task. I oughta check that out and see." But I never thought of that, and
now I know.
so I know a lot about most of that stuffyou generously explained, and I
found all the list boxes and combo boxes for making such settings completely
visible and accessible. See what I'm saying? So don't worry about the
general orientation instructions. The one thing you have managed to educate
me about for which I'm grateful, and which another lister only chided me for
not having learned already, is that it's good practice to explore whether
the context menu, whichever key you use to bring it up, might be of use in
using the program. I'm simply not accustomed to thinking of this as a
strategic tool that may frequently be available to a screen reader user to
automate or at least facilitate some actions which a mouse user wouldn't
have had to think of an alternative for. The principle of this was never
brought home to me. Mea maxima culpa. My awesome bad. Whatever. So thank
you for playing the good cop to the other person's punitive-minded
executioner.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Debbie Scales" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: Burning a CD Accessibly with Easy CD-Da Extractor
Yardbird, I couldn't resist founding out more about this program and what
everybody was talking about, smile.
So I installed it.
This is how I converted a MP3 to a WMA file.
Run the program.
I focused on the file or selected several files and pressed the windows
application key for the context menu.
On the context menu you will find convert with Easy CD-Da Extractor.
Enter on that.
You can continue to add files that way until you are ready.
Then switch back to the program.
Tab to where you hear output format combo box.
Press alt down arrow and arrow to WMA and choose it.
Now press f8. If you look on the actions menu, you will find that start
converter is f8.
It will convert, jaws will read the progress bar and when you think it is
done, the wma files will be in the same folder. (unless you change it in
the program).
I hope I remembered everything correctly.
You know one thing I have came to learn that has really helped me. Whenever
I install a new program, I check on the context menu if it involves files,
and I also try to look at all the menus. I then try to read the help file,
and hope it is accessible. You know though in this case I'm not sure that
would have helped, because they don't mention how to do it from the context
menu, or I didn't find that. Bruce obviously has more experience with the
program, so if I was wrong about something, I hope he straightens me out,
smile.
Debbie
Debbie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: Burning a CD Accessibly with Easy CD-Da Extractor
Bruce,
first, thanks for taking the time to write this instruction. But, may I
say in all modesty, I could hardly have just intuited the above as a
workaround for burning a CD from files on my hard drive. I lack the habits
of mind that would enable me to think of anything beyond trying again and
again to tab around the program's own interface and, figuring out that I
just can't access the functions I know are there where you have a Windows
Explorer-like tree view of your hard drive, then select a folder, select
files from within it, and then somehow copy them into a list box that
becomes the list of files to be burned.. you know what I mean.. I just give
up. I doubt I'm the only one who would. Pride makes me say that.
I never would have thought of simply dodging around the program as you
suggest. I hope you see that you've been of considerable help to someone
who can't think outside the regular end user box of either being able to
figure out a program's interface with Jaws or not being able to. Even now,
I can't imagine how it occurred to you that you could accomplish the task
the way you describe.
I intend to try this out this weekend, and will report if I'm successful, or
ask more questions if I need to. Meantime, may I ask one thing more? I
would like to be able to use the file conversion function of the program,
and once, by fooling around with the jaws cursor and taking nearly an hour
before I succeeded, and even then not knowing how I managed to get it
together, I converted a couple of .mp3 files to .wma's just to save space on
my modest-sized little flash memory player (A Sandisk Sansa M230). could I
insert files into the interface the same way as above, and then use the
conversion tools on what I'd imported into that box? I know how to use the
menus and button commands, etc.; it's getting the files into the right place
that has frustrated me, and it sounds as if this procedure could work for
that purpose, too, as well as for burning. Am I right?.
Thanks very much.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 8:30 AM
Subject: Burning a CD Accessibly with Easy CD-Da Extractor
Here are the steps necessary to burning an audio CD with Easy CD-DA
Extractor.
1. Go into Windows Explorer.
2. Highlight the first song you want to burn, or a group of songs you want
to burn.
3. Hit your applications key.
4. Choose "burn to CD with Easy CD-Da Extractor.
5. You'll be placed in the Easy CD-Da Extractor window. If you are
finished adding songs, go to step 5, otherwase alt-tab back into Windows
finished adding songs, go to step 6, otherwise alt-tab back into Windows
Explorer and repeat steps 2 through 5.
6. Hit F8.
7. When the Cd ejects, you're done.
Bruce
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