Re: Bug in eloquence for JAWS, hhope this helps a few people

  • From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 14:04:33 -0000

Sometimes, alphanumeric characters make up the code for speech engines
to do certain things.  Unless I change my JAWS dictionary, (my Apollo 2
synthesiser doesn't like the @ [at] sign before or after certain letters
in an email address.)  these might be accented characters not commonly
used in English.  the Viavoice speech engine has a few such no-no's when
used with Kurzweil 1000.  If you'd been on the main JFW list when the
'aesthetic' crash was doing the rounds, you'd have come a cropper when
using Eloquence.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: Bug in eloquence for JAWS, hhope this helps a few people


Well, I just tried it several times and it didn't crash.  And I can
honestly say
that in my 6 years of using different computers and the various versions
of
Jaws.  I've never seen Jaws crash because of the spelling of a word.
This is
all news to me.  I just don't see how it's possible.  Combinations of
letters
are nothing but sounds, and jaws just pronounces, or tries to pronounce
what it
sees.  Now, why a curtain group of letters and sounds could cause Jaws
to crash
just doesn't make sense.  I'm not saying that it can't happen, but the
likelihood of it happening is nearly impossible.
----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: Bug in eloquence for JAWS, hhope this helps a few people


hi.  I think the bug exists when eloquence runs across the word. Typing
it
isn't enough, it has to actually try to speak the word to crash.
I was told that it is the word" seasure, with the letters, a and e
reversed.
so in other words, if eloquence runs across the word seasure, with the
letters, a and e reversed in it, i'm not going to type the word just in
case, then it's bye bye jaws.
and this *has* happened before. an earlier version of JAWS and eloquence
had the exact same problem with the word "aesthetic".





At 06:44 AM 3/8/2005, you wrote:
>Jack, of course it can happen.  Speech engines have bugs in them just
>like any other software, and sometimes they can get stuck on certain
>combinations of characters.  I've had it happen before (three or four
>years ago, with Eloquence), with then-well-known words that crashed it.
>however, on this occasion, I typed the offending word and nothing
>untoward happened with my Eloquence - using JAWS6 and Windows
>Millennium.  However, it is not my default synth.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:42 AM
>Subject: Re: Bug in eloquence for JAWS, hhope this helps a few people
>
>
>Chris,
>
>Did you experience this for yourself?  Or just take the word of someone
>who told
>you that it can be done.  The idea that Jaws can be made to crash by
>reversing
>two vowels is beyond ridiculous.
>I tried it and nothing happened.  Unless it only works in certain
>situations,
>like live chat.  Sounds like a hoax to me.  You can't crash Jaws with
>text.
>It's ludicrous.  Jack
>
>----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 2:49 AM
>Subject: Bug in eloquence for JAWS, hhope this helps a few people
>
>
>Hi all
>
>Recently I found out that if someone types the word, "seasure", but
>reverses the A, and the E, JAWS will crash.  I was on the Zone, a
>popular
>game and chat site and some people were talking about it and some
people
>were even doing it to be mean, and crash some people's JAWS. I should
>point
>out that Eloquence seems to be the only synth that has this bug, yet
>another reason why I absolutely love my dectalk. It's immune to this
>type
>of thing. I do hope FS comes out with a fix for this sometime, because
>if
>you're going to have people who can exploit the bug, people's JAWS will
>keep crashing and it's really going to be annoying.  I just thought I
>would
>be a good guy and let some folks know why this was happening, if it was
>at all.
>The only fixes right now are use a hardware synth, or just set up a
>hotkey
>and if it crashes, just keep restarting it. and if you have someone on
>msn
>who thinks it's cute to do that, block them or something. lol
>Hope this helps a few people.
>
>
>
>
>
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