Re: Best chat program for a newbie? (was:Re: Jaws in MSN!)

  • From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 10:03:46 -0800

Jim,
thanks for the recommendation for Windows Messenger.  it's reassuring to 
know that it'll be easy to learn how to use, in terms of Jaws accessibility. 
I'd still like it if anyone has any idea about which of the chat programs 
seems to be the most widely used, not only by blind and low vision users but 
in general.

As for my health issue, thanks for asking!  I had the radiation treatment 
last Tuesday at the Norris Cancer Center here at the University of Southern 
California (USC) Hospital (it's not a cancerous tumor, don't worry), and as 
they kept me under varying degrees of sedation all through the procedures, I 
wasn't either terrified nor in pain then, happy to report.  But, and this is 
a normal after-effect of this sort of radiation treatment, as soon as all 
sedation wore off, as well as some local anesthetic used on my scalp so they 
could place these pins in my head to affix a special aluminum frame for the 
targeting, I was hit with the worst headache I'd ever experienced in my 
life, along with a feeling that someone was stabbing me in the ear with a 
spike.  But a constant round of Vicodan kept the pain down, like a pit bull 
locked in its dog house, softly growling, and after a couple of days I was 
back to normal.

As for the actual results of the treatment, this can't be known until at 
least the first MRI after six months, to see whether the tumor has stopped 
growing and may even be cooperatively dying.  There's a very good 
statistical chance that the treatment will be successful in this essential 
sense.  And at least for now, I've saved what was left of the hearing in 
that ear, whereas any option for microsurgery would have likely diminished 
or simply ended it.  Other symptoms persist, including balance problems ( 
sometimes lurch like a drunk), but one thing at a time.  There's no free 
lunch with this kind of tumor deal, so it's survival first, then the rest.

Again, thanks for asking.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: Best chat program for a newbie? (was:Re: Jaws in MSN!)


Hi,
Well in your case use windows messenger it is included with xp it works
right out of the box with jaws 4.02 and later
And it is easy to setup.
You never told the list how your operation went!
I hope it all went well.
jim grimsby
msn: jim.grimsby@xxxxxxx
email:  jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx
skype: jim.grimsby

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Yardbird
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 9:26 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Best chat program for a newbie? (was:Re: Jaws in MSN!)


Hi guys,

I missed a lot of this thread because I don't use any chat program  so I

didn't open the messages.  but I gave in to my curiosity and read one or
two
of the most recent ones just now, and it made me wonder if maybe I
shouldn't
invest a little effort in learning at least one of the chat program,
just
case it allows for a little more online communication one of these days.

So I have a pretty basic question, and I invite listers like Bruce who
seems
to have extensive and comprehensive knowledge of this topic.  I would
love
to be able to use at least one chat application, but I'd love to know
which
would provide the optimal combination of widespread use and popularity
as
well as relative simplicity for a newbie like myself, including whatever

scripts are available for Jaws 7 to make it usable, if they have to be
found
and installed.

Thanks.  It's just that in the last couple of years before the Internet
spread so widely, And I could still see the text on my screen, I used to

belong to a local BBS (bulletin board system) and really enjoyed
real-time
chat.  But when I imagine doing that with Jaws, it overwhelms me, the
very
idea, of lines of text constantly appearing onscreen, immediately
followed
by yet more, the very thing that was so exciting and fun when I could
see to
do this visually.

Thanks for suggestions.
From: "Wong" <allanwkf@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS in MSN!


hi Jouie,

As I mention in my previous email, the script that come with jaws 5.0
may not support fully for msn 7.5.  After I do a double check, the
script that include in jaws 5.0 for msn is version 1.85 and with jaws
6.20 is version 1.90.  As I remember correctly, jaws 6.20 only support
msn up to version 6.2, so, for version 5.0 of jaws I don't think can
support up to the latest version of msn.


hth
From: "Jouie" Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 14:46


Ya I realized those now. But, my question now will be, if ever you want
to do it manually, where can you find this option? I mean the settings
for enabling/disabling the typing sound?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Wong
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 12:17 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JAWS in MSN!

hi Jouie,

may I know you are using JFW 5.0 with which version of MSN?

when you read the help section, do the help stated the command is work
find with which version of MSN?

if you are using MSN higher then version 6.2, this command may not
useable.

if you are using JFW 7.0, this setting can be found in JAWS Verbosity by
pressing insert+v.

hth
  From: Jouie Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 6:03 AM


  I read the help section of my JAWS 5.0. I went to popular applications
and I chose MSN Messenger looking for JAWS commands for this instant
messenger program. Then, as expected, I found few commands that have
triggered my curiosity enough for me to open MSN immediately! As stated,
I pressed ctrl shft f12 (toggle command) to hear a sound if the contact
is typing. Also, ctrl alt f12, also a (toggle command), to hear JAWS
says a message if the contact is typing etc. Now my question is, do
these commands work?

  Regards,

  E-mail me at:

  jouiecel27@xxxxxxxxx

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