Re: Anyone out there happy with Jfw 6.1?
- From: "Gene" <guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:46:32 -0400
Two questions. First of all does the other company have more than one
product on the market with the share that FS does? Secondly, how many times
have you seen Microsoft do exactly the same thing? I am not saying that FS
is all in the right here. I'm just saying that before you complain about
every little bug you find take a look at the job involved in fixing those
bugs. II know for a fact that Microsoft BASIC has not been able to add
correctly since it's initial release and that the problem was never fixed
because it would cost to much. Those of us programming in basic were told to
simply program around the bug. Try that... it isn't as easy as you may
think. Before blaming FS look at all the other companies involved...
hardware and software. I'd bet a pay check that half of the problems are
caused by the unstable nature of Windows itself.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill" <bill.cam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:35 AM
Subject: Re: Anyone out there happy with Jfw 6.1?
> john hate totell you this the public betas that f s had where not really
> much of a public beta in the first place.
>
>
> sure they released it and after the release they fixed some of the known
> bugs, but fixed very few bugs if any reported on the e mail list by end
> users.
>
> in fact when they had several patches, not uncommon, the next patch
> reported bug list did not even mention the bugs found on the list.
>
> guess what f s from appearance was never listening much to its user base
> from what i can see.
> at least not the users on the list.
> if they had been the bugs discoverred by the list would have been in the
> bug list of the following patch.
>
> of course what does one expect of a 2 week public beta.
>
> about what f s deliverred.
>
> some of g w public betas have been over 2 months by comparison.
>
>
> gene your comment about 6.1 being about the same, well isn't the idea
> behind a .1 patch supposed to be fixes.
>
> so when it appears and no fixes are their what do you think folks are
> going
> to say, that 6.1 is lovely and improved when its not.
>
>
> no their going to tell the truth, no fixes and a disappointment because it
> lacks fixes.
>
> john you noted that those bitching seem to be some of the same folks.
>
> well here is a further note, many of those bitching happen to own both
> screen readers.
>
> or at least some of us do.
>
> including me.
> know severals do because seem some of them on the other list, and some
> noted it here.
>
> so after seeing how g w micro attacks bugs in its public beta and does a
> much better job one has to ask how a company with about one third the
> programmers can do what f s can not.
>
>
> g w only has 2 programmers.
>
> f s has soldover 100,000 copies of jfw and has much more revenue to fix
> bugs than the competition.
>
> unfortunately their not doing as good as the competition with fixing bugs,
> so because we who own the competition see that a better job can be done,
> so
> we point it out.
>
> so i know that its simply not true these issues can not be addressed
> because windows is so complicated.
>
> true not all bugs will be solved in any piece of software, but i know of
> no
> other company that introduces patches that fix nothing or very little as
> recent versions of jfw patches have.
>
>
>
> bill
>
>
>
>
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