Hi, I know this perfectly well; in fact, for all my visual disability, I can even still simply see the color change. And years ago, I , too, called selected screen elements highlighted. I'm not sure exactly when it happened, but "selected" really did become the operative term in documentation some years ago already, now. honestly, it did. I can barely remember a time when any official discussion of this sort of thing talked about "highlighting" anything. It's as if that was just a descriptive, conversational way for most of us to say what visibly happened, when we selected something. But "select" was what we were actually doing, procedurally and functionally. The highlighting is just the visual way to *show* what's been selected. Eventually, I just began to refer to this the same way all documentation did, and I'm none the worse for it, I don't think. but enough. I don't want to get points off for going off topic into a discussion about the evolution of computer terminology... ----- Original Message ----- From: "G.W. Cox" <gwcox2@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 9:41 AM Subject: Re: Announcing Highlighted text I'm glad you recognized that we cathode ray-stained wretches call it highlighted. I haven't any idea when selected came into being. Let's say you're on a web page and you want to get its address. You hit alt d. It is now highlighted and you can hit control C to copy. You didn't nor did you need to select anything. It was highlighted with either reverse type or a rectangular colored screen. I use insert shift down arrow to ensure that I've highlighted what I want to. For example, on MSNBC.com I might copy something. Or I have a folder full of songs and I want to make sure what I've selected to play is highlighted. The key combo has been around since I've known Jaws. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 9:57 AM Subject: Re: Announcing Highlighted text Hi Steve and Shannon, I keep trying to find out exactly what the purpose of this command is, and I hope you can confirm what I think I've figured out. First of all, just to be clear: Although from personal experience I'm aware that most sighted computer users habitually refer to selected text as "highlighted" text, because they see whatever they've selected thrown into relief by being a different color then unselected text around it, the formal word is actually "selected." Unless, that is, you guys haven't meant this at all, and are referring to some other factor that would result in the text being shown in a different color, or just brighter or darker. But I opened a Word doc I'm working in, and I bolded a word then applied this key combination, and it simply said "no text selected." So I conclude that "highlight" is being used to mean "selected." Yes? That's not quibbling. It's a meaningful distinction. Now, if that's what is of concern, here, selected text, do you use this after, let's say, you've selected a few words, or a paragraph, or whatever in a document or in some other environment (maybe on a Web page or something?) and you want to confirm that you included in your selection exactly what you want selected, before applying some formatting feature, or cutting or copying it? Thanks. I know this question must seem dense, because no one's answered it specifically. But if this is the purpose of Shift Insert down arrow, it's a nice new editing tool to know about. Thanks. expereince lthogh you ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve & Shannon" <shaste1011@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 8:11 AM Subject: RE: Announcing Highlighted text shift insert down arrow will read high lighted text Steve & Shannon Today I will marry by best friend, the one that I laugh with, live for, love.-October 11, 2003 -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James Dean Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 8:55 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Announcing Highlighted text Um...insert 8? Or you could also try hitting insert F and seeing if the font you are on is highlighted or bold or whatever. James MSN/Windows Messenger: jamesdean504@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: Semaj Yahoo: kg4RDF AIM: tootiki ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael G. <mailto:commodore128@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 7:53 PM Subject: Announcing Highlighted text Hi All, Could someone tell me how you have Jaws announce which block of text is highlighted in a Word document? I've looked through the Help file and I can't seem to find it. I also looked on the Freedom Scientific site and I couldn't find it there either. Thanks! Michael -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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