Re: An observation

  • From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:15:09 +0100

I think what they've done is, through HTML markup, set the language
attribute to whatever the two letter combination for Swedish is. So,
let's say Swedish was SW, so the HTML code would probably look like
this: <html lang="sw"> ... </html>. Does that make sense?
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:39:58 -0700, "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
said:
> Christopher,
> 
> Yes, that's what I thought. But I was surprised by what you say about
> that 
> page having been announced as a Swedish language page and then spoken in 
> English by Jaws! Does not compute. Unless a faultless translating module
> has 
> been included with the version of Jaws you're using. No, seriously, does 
> that make sense? Jaws says "Swedish," and then proceeds to read the page
> in 
> English? Why would it detect Swedish language? Does anyone know if there
> may 
> be page elements and coding that Jaws wouldn't be picking up to speak,
> but 
> which would nevertheless set off its Swedish alarm? I think this is a 
> question for people who understand programming and Web page coding.
> Thanks.
> 
> trying to
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 7:52 AM
> Subject: Re: An observation
> 
> 
> Yes, I guess that's correct. If the language for a particular
> synthesizer is available, then JAWS will switch to that language once
> it's detected. However, if the language for a particular synthesizer
> doesn't exist, then JAWS will speak the name of the language and,
> possibly, read it out as garbage. In my case though, the site was
> written in English despite it saying Swedish so I could understand the
> page anyhow. Hope that helps.
> On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 07:36:17 -0700, "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> said:
> > Never having encountered a Web page in a language other than English
> > (when I
> > do a Google search, I either opt for English-only results or pass over
> > results not in English), I'd like to know one thing. If  you have Spanish
> > installed with Eloquence, and load a Spanish-language Web page, I assume
> > Jaws switches to speaking Spanish, yes? But when you open a Web page in a
> > language you haven't installed with Eloquence, or which, like the Swedish
> > example, doesn't even exists as a possibility with eloquence, what does
> > Jaws
> > do? Does it say "Swedish," for instance, and then speak the words on the
> > page in a meaningless garble?
> >
> > thanks.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:22 AM
> > Subject: Re: An observation
> >
> >
> > I've worked it out. Basically if the language for a particular
> > synthesizer isn't available, such as Swedish for Eloquence, which
> > doesn't exist anyway, JAWS will announce the language to which the page
> > was written in. However, if you turn language detection off, JAWS will
> > not do this. Thanks for the explanation!
> > On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:12:24 -0700, "Richard Sherman"
> > <squirman@xxxxxxxxxx> said:
> > > Hi,
> > > You are not imagining or hearing things.
> > >
> > > I too have the language detection turned off by default.
> > >
> > > I first checked the site out with language detection turned off and did
> > > not
> > > hear what you claimed. Then I turned this option back on thru the jaws
> > > verbosity and heard that magic word.
> > >
> > >   I am using 7.1 on an xp system with all the updates.
> > >
> > >   Rich
> > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >   From: Kelly Pierce
> > >   Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:27 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >   Last year I found the quirk of JAWS jumping into British English while
> > >   surfing the web.  I eventually disabled the auto language 
> > > functionality
> > >   so
> > >   JAWS would speak in American English all the time.
> > >
> > >   Kelly
> > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >   From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >   Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 5:48 AM
> > >
> > >   Hi all,
> > >   This is not a bug as you can see from the subject line, but if you go
> > >   to
> > >
> > >   http://access.getwf.com JAWS announces "swedish". I thought this word
> > >
> > >   was on the web page, but when I navigated it using previous or next
> > >   character the word wasn't there. Does anyone else have this? I assume
> > >   it's part of the language features of JAWS and HTML, but wanted to 
> > > make
> > >   sure. Thanks! P.S. Using JAWS 8.0.423 demo and Mozilla Firefox 2.0.4
> > >   when testing this out.
> > >   Christopher Hallsworth
> > Christopher Hallsworth
> > E-mail: chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Skype name chrishallsworth7266
> >
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