Then why is there no problem with the competition?
Bruce
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005, Jim Portillo wrote:
Hi there. I'm with Chris.
I don't think this is a JFW issue, rather it's an Amazon issue.
Jim
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Skarstad"
<toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: Amazon.com, and JAWS 7.0
I have had absolutely no problems whatsoever with JAWS 7, and I'm even
using a dectalk express. When I change the punctuation, it works just
fine. As for this Amazon thing, how could the beta testers have known?
Let's really sit back and think about this for a second. The problems
we are all having with Amazon started last week. JAWS 7.0 was released
in October, long before any of this started. So the beta testers
couldn't have known that this was happening, because the problem never
existed while the program was in beta. and furthermore, the program,
according to FS, was in beta for over 2 months. This is enough time to
squash any *major* bugs that may be out there. Every computer system
acts differently, and I suspect that some computer systems are set up by
people in rehab who have absolutely no clue what they're doing, or
people get these computers, turn them on, and when they aren't
configured for optomal JAWS use, they blame FS for having a buggy
program. No matter how you slice it folks, no software is completely bug
free. That is just the nature of it since these programs are created by
human beings, whose nature is to also be imperfect. So if your system
acts funny when using JAWS, go back and check to make sure you have
everything set up properly. The JAWS help system has specific
instructions as to how to do this. Take advantage of this resource and
I bet ya a bunch of the problems people are having will go away.
At 12:27 PM 11/6/2005, you wrote:
> I'm afraid this is what happens when a company decides not to do
public > beta testing. The release version of the screen reader
becomes the > public beta, and we're all beta testers whether we want
to be or not. > I've found several bugs in 7.0 that weren't in 6.2. I
can't set my > external DECtalk Express to Some punctuation without
changing it directly > in the ini file. JFW 7.0 loses focus on the
security dialog on my bank > site. I'm sure there others I haven't
found yet.
> > Gary King, w4wkz@xxxxxxxx
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews"
> > <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 9:08 AM
> Subject: Re: Amazon.com, and JAWS 7.0
> > > > This issue should be reaised with FS. I tried it with JAWS 7,
same > > problem as Chris. I tried it with WE 5.5, no problem.
> > > > Bruce
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> > > > On Sun, 6 Nov 2005, Jim Fettgather wrote:
> > > > > Since I do a ton of shopping on Amazon, especially around
the > > > holidays, I was concerned when I saw this thread.
> > > Just now, using Jaws 5.10, I seemed to have no difficulty
finding > > > detailed information about a Mac Mini apple computer.
> > > All of the Amazon pages came up with the information that I
had > > > requested, and things seemed to behave normally.I will sure
try this > > > with Jaws 6.0.
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" > > >
<yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 12:44 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Amazon.com, and JAWS 7.0
> > > > > > > > > > chris,
> > > > > > > > Doesn't look like it's just a Jaws 7 issue. I'm
using v. 6.2, > > > > and
> > > > something
> > > > similar happens now (I was there just yesterday and
everything > > > > was
> > > > normal).
> > > > I did a search for a particular book title that I know
they > > > > carry. > > > > When
> > > > the
> > > > search results page loaded, I did a firtual Find for the
word > > > > "sort,"
> > > > which
> > > > takes me to the "sort by" combo box just before the
listed > > > > results > > > > begin.
> > > > > > > > I arrowed down a few lines and found the linked book
title.
> > > > > > > > I clicked on it and the page I got was nothing but
the usual > > > > global
> > > > nvavigational links plus a set of links and a combo box
dedicated > > > > to
> > > > something to do with finding gifts. It wasn't about
gift > > > > *certificates,*
> > > > if
> > > > that's what you got. But it was equally wrong. The title of
the > > > > book I
> > > > used for the search was nowhere on the page. I arrowed
down > > > > through it
> > > > very
> > > > carefully.
> > > > > > > > By the ay, in case you need it, the customer service
number I've > > > > always
> > > > used
> > > > when necessary, and the only one I know about, is
> > > > (800) 201-7575
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Skarstad"
> > > > <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 10:11 PM
> > > > Subject: Amazon.com, and JAWS 7.0
> > > > > > > > Hi folks
> > > > > > > > From the looks of things here, Amazon.com, one of my
favorite > > > > sites on the
> > > > net, no longer works with JAWS 7.0.
> > > > You click on a link to take you to the information page for
a > > > > specific
> > > > product, but instead you are taken to a page to buy a
gift > > > > certificate.
> > > > From what I'm told, they made some kind of visual change to
the > > > > site using
> > > > javascript. It looks more visually pleasing, but JAWS
doesn't > > > > display the
> > > > page properly. so you press enter on a link thinking you'll
land > > > > on one
> > > > thing but you land on another.
> > > > So I'm going to call the customer service line on Monday
because > > > > even > > > > i, a
> > > > pretty compident JAWS user, couldn't find the contact us
link. > > > > Well, i
> > > > found the link but not the right page. Really frustrating.
> > > > If anyone else has had a similar problem, or if you give the
site > > > > aa > > > > try
> > > > and experience the same problem, I'd like to know. This way
i'll > > > > have as
> > > > much information as possible when I make my call.
> > > > Thanks.
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