Yes, but this is the first version of a product that is going to go mainstream very fast. So I would love to see it become quality. ATM it looks like they just slapped on Sappi and didn't know that the majority of Blind people don't use the two stereotype computer voices. I am very thankful and excited that they have done this and it is a great first version. If the blind users all request that we have word and letter navigation and the ability to use the full range of Sappi voices, or be able to plug-in a voice like one can with Jaws, I believe that will be in the next update. Once it gets those 3 things they will have another happy customer! Thanks, Brandon Keith Check out MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/brandonkeithcom Also add me on facebook! brandonkeith From: DJ Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 6:20 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Accessible Kindle for PC App Released Sheesh guys, at least they're working on it. I'm not responding to any particular person, but why is it that when a piece of software is first announced to have been made accessible, people immediately complain that it's not perfect, it won't do this, it won't do that, bla bla bla? Yes, we should point out that this feature or that feature could use some tweaking, or perhaps ask what we as a community can do to help make it work more to our liking, but can't we make a minor attempt to be a bit more diplomatic about it? It just seems that people come off as attacking which is not likely to get us very far. At least it usually seems that way to me. As we all know, Amazon has a very large presence on the internet and I for one am pleased that they are making an effort to bring the VI community in with the rest of the world. How often do you really see this kind of effort by other major companies? Someone had to say this. Thanks for your time. DJ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gary King Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:23 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Accessible Kindle for PC App Released Brandon, I copied the following link from the Amazon page that is linked to on the Blind Bargains site: mailto:kindle-PC-accessibility-feedback@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=Kindle for PC with Accessibility Plugin Feedback The link is rather long and may wrap in this message. I saw on another list that someone who tried the app expected the screen reader to be able to read the text of the book on the screen. It doesn't! The only access to the books is with the provided text-to-speech voice. I wouldn't try to read any books with complex layouts such as cookbooks or books on math or chemistry. Gary King w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Brandon Keith To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:32 PM Subject: Re: Accessible Kindle for PC App Released Thank you for letting us know about this! This is awesome!!! Where is the best place to submit feedback to Amazon? Just on the Kindle Support page? Thank you, Brandon Keith Check out MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/brandonkeithcom Also add me on facebook! brandonkeith From: Gary King Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 5:16 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Accessible Kindle for PC App Released If you've been waiting for an accessible Kindle app for the PC, you're in luck! Go to http://blindbargains.com and read the entry under Latest Bargains. The link will take you to the Amazon page that describes the app and how to download and use it. Read through all of the Help links, and you will know all that I do about it. The app download is 231 MB, so if you have a dialup connection, forget it! It has been tested with JAWS and NVDA. A screen reader must be detected by the app in order to enable text-to-speech on all Kindle books. As you may know, authors have disabled text-to-speech on the Kindle itself for many of their titles. At least, we will be able to read them on the computer with this app. You can read the books a page at a time or continuously with a male or female voice. Navigation only goes down to the sentence level, so you can't read word by word or have words spelled. I hope this will change in a later version. I would suggest that if you want to try the program that you get one of the free books available from the Kindle Store. I visited the Free Collections link and chose a book from the Limited Promotions section. There were 143 selections to choose from. I just made sure that I looked for the ones that were $0.00. These are my early impressions of the program, and at least I think they have made a good start toward accessibility. We will need to give them feedback to insure that improvements will be made. Gary King mailto:w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx