Hi, if you choose the word in a subject line option, then, the specific word or words that you will going to indicate will be filtered. Filtering senders, are different topics. You can also create a rule for that. Since, he want to filter all his particular message or topic, then, I think, this is a good practice and to be organize your messages. What do you think? Roden -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 6:01 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: About Your Advice One question before I try this out: If a whole bunch of new messages are grouped accoridng to their subject lines, is that all you see in the list? How about the sender's name? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Verity" <rtverity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: Re: About Your Advice The same thing can be acomplished in Outlook Express by going to VIEW Current View then group by conversation. you can then Collapse and Expand as desired. RTV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 1:05 PM Subject: RE: About Your Advice Hi, the easiest way is to use outlook verses express and sort all messages by subject and so you see it in a tree like structure "your advice you decide then to read the messages under that subject or not. jim grimsby msn: jim.grimsby@xxxxxxx email: jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx skype: jim.grimsby -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 10:01 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: About Your Advice May I add that I think the main reason filtering messages in this way wouldn't be useful is that the filter would have to use subject lines as its criteria, and you couldn't possibly predict every thread that you wouldn't want to read messages in, nor even how someone might write the subject line for that thread, etc. Just imagine you're using this idea to avoid having to even see messages you don't care for. Every time you encountered a few messages about something, say "Your Advice," that you decided wasn't to your taste, you'd have to go into the Outlook Express filter rules menu, a menu that's particularly difficult for screen reader users to deal with without asking for help over and over again, spend time setting up a rule to channel every post with the subject line "Your Advice" into your Deleted Items folder. And then, after all that, someone might change the wording of the subject line for some reason and... In other words, this wouldn't be exactly the easiest way to deal with your annoyance, nor give you the sense of control that must feel as if it's slipping away when messages you don't like keep coming into your Inbox. My take, and not everyone would agree: It's only an inbox message list. it's not hurting you. by which I mean you do not& have to read anything you don't want to. I know people have certain habits for dealing with their mail, and I believe this is what's at fault. Please let me clarify: If you use the manual method of simply arrowing down the list and choose to open messages one at a time, then you can just delete the ones whose subject lines don't appeal to you. But please note: I've noticed that a number of people on this list prefer to go through the new email in their Inboxes not this way, but by opening the first new message and then deleting from within it, whereupon the next new message opens, etc. If this is how you go through your new email, then the choice has been taken away from you whether to open a message and hear at least some of it before getting angry. And if that's what you find so offensive, then it would be better to go through the mail by just arrowing up and down your Inbox list, not deleting messages from within so that the next message automatically opens and you have to hear what you don't want to hear, and then feel overwhelmed and helpless and start getting angry. Just don't do the mail that way. Arrow down, open a message that interests you, hit Escape to let it close, then delete it if you want, then see what the next message is. I mean the next message listed, not its contents. To those who are very attached to doing this in the more automated way and resent the suggestion, all I can say, in a kindly, cheerful tone, is, look, it's just an extra press of the Escape key and then the Enter key this way. It won't kill you. It certainnly won't feel as bad as having a million emails you hate hearing keep opening and talking to you. Hope this helps. thehoppen emaiil, ones tnhben ne messageIf you eems hrow would'nt ubjet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 9:07 AM Subject: Re: About Your Advice Yes, he can create a message rule to have all messages he's not interested in go to another folder but then he has to be somewhat like a prophet! How do you know today what you will encounter tomorrow? If he excludes a certain topic, for example, like word today what happens if tomorrow or next week he encounters a word problem? Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: INTRACOM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:04 AM Subject: RE: About Your Advice Hi Judith! yah, you are right. But, if he using Ms. Outlook or Outlook Express, then, he can create a message rule for him to exclude all e mails that he don't want to go to his Inbox. What do you think? Roden -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Judith Bron Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:36 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: About Your Advice Dave, Sometimes there is so much repetitiveness because not all people read every word sent to their in box. Many, like myself, delete those messages whose subject doesn't apply to their needs. This is the way all support lists that I have been on operate. If some one has in their subject line a subject that does not apply to your hard ware, software or program that you are not using you can just delete it, there is no reason to read hundreds of messages a day. Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "david b. dahlin" <msrdavidv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 11:11 AM Subject: Re: About Your Advice > James: > > Please respond to me. I have been sending info but I have gotten no > response. > I am new on this list so I am struggling with protocol. > I see so much repetetiveness in messages and I am disappointed in the few > people who respond. > I end up with over 100 messages per day to look at and I don't have that > much time. > I am looking for info re Norton, Jaws speech dropping off after a lengthy > document and basic conversation re "what's new". > Please respond on the side if you have not deleted me. > > Dave > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James" <james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 12:16 AM > Subject: Re: About Your Advice > > > > Yes, enough from you. And enough on this line of topic, too. If you want > > to bash each other, do it off-list. Because if you keep doing so here, > > you'll be off list. Just ask... it's happened. > > > > James, > > List Admin > > > > At 03:12 AM 11/8/2005, you wrote: > >>Gee I like the way you put things. Freedom Science Fiction could that be a > >>new name? As to using a different screen reader have you ever stopped to > >>think about the fact that not all people might be rich like you so they > >>can go out and buy just whatever they might want. > >>Maybe we should all say that everything works just fine and then as the > >>new versions come out there will be even more things that we can say work > >>so perfectly. Wonder how long it would take to make that type of perfect > >>product! Wonder what we could all do with that type of perfect product. > >>On a serious note. I do not think that anyone on this list is saying that > >>everything Freedom Scientific has done is wrong nor are they saying that > >>everything about Jaws is wrong. I thought this list was to help each other > >>work out things pertaining to Jaws. If all we should talk about is how > >>good it is then there would be no purpose for this list. Am truly happy > >>for you that you are having no problems with Jaws in any version. > >> > >>From: "Chris Skarstad" < > >><mailto:toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >>To: < > >><mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:14 PM > >>Subject: Re: strange loading and other things > >> > One bit of advice for all of you. If you don't like JAWS then don't, > >> > freekin, use it! > >> > Switch to window-eyes and then all your little problems with Freedom > >> > science fiction will be solved. I can't stand whiners! > >> > Ok, enough from me. > > > > -- > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or > > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > -- > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. 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