RE: A convenient alternative to Alt Tab
- From: "Jim Grimsby Jr." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 19:59:13 -0700
I guess this comes down to there is always many way to do things within
windows. So what works for one may not work for another. Note yard bird I
was not stating the means I do it was better or anything of the sort. I was
just pointing out that one could do it that way.
Now another method that is very helpful is jaws key f10. the nice thing
about this feature is that it list all windows that are real windows. Real
windows meaning windows that have a title bar. This is really nice in
programs such as winamp and goldwave.the other day for example I was playing
and saving a file and I got a phone call.
I was able to use the jaws task list dialog to switch to the control window
and pause the playing file while I took the call.
So just another means of doing the same thing and it is quite assuredly jaws
related.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Allan Wong
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 7:20 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: A convenient alternative to Alt Tab
ok, sorry bruce and all. my bad. act as a moderator and yet i'm not.
ok, lets continue the topic.
i can't use my right WinKey+tab or any others combinations since my keyboard
doesn't have a right WinKey. so i have to use my left
WinKey+tab. i have no choyce.
Warmest Regards,
Allan Wong
3M Technology
** If I said something wrong, please forgive me, as English is not my
native, I'm sorry.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 09:47
Subject: Re: A convenient alternative to Alt Tab
With all true respect, Alan, whether a thread is or is not off-topic is for
the list moderator to decide. If you question the on-topicality of a thread,
you should take it up off-list with the moderator.
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On Mon, 14 May 2007, Allan Wong wrote:
> hi friends, should we drop this topic? every computer user have their
> own way to use the windows. some of you may like to use
> WinKey+e for windows explorer but as for myself, i may prefered going
> WinKey+the manual way that is going through the my computer icon at
> the desktop. so, i don't see any reason to make this thred any longer
> since it is not jaws related also. sorry guys.
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
> Allan Wong
> 3M Technology
>
> ** If I said something wrong, please forgive me, as English is not my
> native, I'm sorry.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 09:18
> Subject: Re: A convenient alternative to Alt Tab
>
>
> Well, look, as I said, I just can't do that very easily, plus I am not
> having any big efficiency issue about the home row. I'm fine. But I'm
> really glad you can do this. It's terrific.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Grimsby Jr." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 5:51 PM
> Subject: RE: A convenient alternative to Alt Tab
>
>
> Hi I use my thump to strike the windows key and my small finger to
> strike the tab while all the rest of my fingers remain on home row.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Jeffrey Shockley
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 4:36 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: A convenient alternative to Alt Tab
>
>
> Hi,
> When I use the left Windows Key plus tab key combonation, I use my
> left thumb to strike the Windows key, and the two fingers after my
> thumb to strike the tab key. I hope this makes sense. Jeff
>
> Check out my blog!
> The URL is
> http://jeffreyshockley.livejournal.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Yardbird
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 7:26 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: A convenient alternative to Alt Tab
>
>
> Hi Jeffrey,
>
> Well, what you suggest sounds like another one of those instances in
> which my only response its to ask how on earth a person's supposed to
> do that. You
>
> mean with just your left hand? Somehow locate the left windows key
> with your
>
> thumb or something, and hit the tab key with your little finger? That
> would require eargue me to use my right hand to position my left hand
> before I could do it. LOL. Seriously, though.
>
> Lest I sound unadventurous, please consider that I'm accustomed to
> locating the left windows key with my left index finger by finding the
> left control key with it first and then sliding it one to the right,
> to the Windows key. So that's what my fingers and hands are accustomed
> to doing. I just tried using my left index on the Windows key and
> finding the Tab key with my little finger. No way. Anyway, I'm
> perfectly happy with what I discoveredisconcerted, as I have two
> hands. Although if I somehow lost my right hand, I'm sure I'd retrain
> myself to do all this with my left. Just strikes me oddly.
>
> But let a hundred flowers bloom in the Windows courtyard, by all
> means. Oh, I don't use Vista, so that's not a concern to me, but
> thanks for mentioning it.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeffrey Shockley" <jawswizard@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 3:45 PM
> Subject: RE: A convenient alternative to Alt Tab
>
>
> Hi,
> You can also use the left Windows Key. However, I don't know how well
> this works with Windows Vista due to the visual changes and Windows 3d
> flip. I did this once on my brother's mew Vista machine, and it didn't
> put you right on the task bar. HTH, Jeff
>
> Check out my blog!
> The URL is
> http://jeffreyshockley.livejournal.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Yardbird
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 6:33 PM
> To: JFW List
> Subject: A convenient alternative to Alt Tab
>
>
> I just accidentally discovered a very convenient Windows keyboard way
> to circulate among your running applications besides Alt-tabbing from
> one to the other. Not that I mind doing that so terribly, but this is
> pretty slick:
>
> Just press Windows key plus tab. That's the right Windows key, of
> course. What this does is land you immediately in your task bar, which
> is where a sighted user would be clicking on the icons that represent
> open applications.
>
> Now, I know I can get to the Task Bar by going to the Desktop with
> Windows M
>
> or Windows D, and then tabbing around from Desktop to start menu to
> system tray and so forth until I land in the Task Bar. But when I
> thought that was my only alternative to repeatedly pressing alt tab, I
> passed on it.
>
> But with this, you just press right Windows key plus tab, and you're
> on the first icon in your Task Bar representing one of your open apps.
> From there, if you don't want to click on and restore that one, you
> just go back and forth with your arrow keys until you find the icon
> you do want to restore, and there you go.
>
> I know, this is 1. off topic, except that you wouldn't have to explore
> and discover such things if you didn't use a screen reader, of course
> and, 2. everybody probably knows it, already, and my blundering into
> it when I'd meant to press alt tab makes me the last one to know.
>
> In any case, if this is helpful to someone, great. Just sharing, as we
> say.
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