dear all, since there still someone can't make a correct decision whether to get a 64-bit system or just a 32-bit system, here i have a short note that might help you. i'm apologies if you receive this posting multiple copy because i'm sending this to a few lists, sorry for the inconvenience. to the moderators, please allow this post send to the list, because this may help some of us fellow members. ------------------------------- One of the more common questions I hear about Vista is which bit version of Windows Vista should one get. Do we go with x86 32 bit edition or x64 64 bit edition? I'm going to try to clear that question up as best as I can and explain the pros and cons of each choice. First we must understand a little background on what x64 is. X64 is the 64 bit extension technology that AMD invented (AMD64) to seamlessly migrate the 32 bit x86 (as in 286, 386, 486 compatible microprocessors) world into a 64 bit era. Intel in partnership with HP had refused to extend the ancient x86 platform and had already committed to its all new pure 64 bit IA-64 Itanium architecture. While Itanium was fundamentally superior, its x86 emulation provided inferior performance for existing applications and the adoption rate was very slow. Intel had hoped that the market would leap to the new platform but there was no seamless way of making that migration, and Itanium failed to gain widespread adoption. AMD took the opportunity to extend the existing x86 architecture with 64 bit capability by handling 64 bit CPU registers and adding a lot more registers, and it was immediately greeted warmly by the market. In a reversal of roles, Intel found itself copying AMD64 (permitted by an AMD-Intel cross-licensing agreement) and calling it EM64T. The two x64 technologies are essentially identical except for a few minor differences in the implementation. Microsoft initially created a version of Windows XP called XP 64 bit Edition, a pure 64 bit operating system that ran on IA-64 Itanium and only supported x86 applications through emulation. There was even a Windows 2000 Server version for IA-64 as well. The problem was that the adoption rate of IA-64 was very slow, and when AMD created AMD64-with Intel having no choice but to follow-Microsoft created the x64 edition of Windows XP as well as Windows Server 2003. The x64 editions were hybrid 32/64 bit operating systems that could natively run 32 or 64 bit code at full speeds without software emulation, whereas the 64 bit edition of Windows XP relied on software emulation to run existing x86 32 bit code. With the release of Vista, Microsoft simultaneously launched the 32 bit x86 and the 64 bit x64 editions. The retail editions contain both the x86 and x64 editions, while the OEM versions contain one or the other and you have to decide before you order. Now one of the most common questions people ask is whether to run 32 or 64 bit Vista. The first thing you must do is to make sure your particular CPU supports x64. list of 11 items * Almost all new servers sold within the last two years from AMD or Intel will have x64 capability. * Most mid- to high-end desktop processors from AMD or Intel within the last year have x64 capability. * Some higher-end Semprons have x64; lower-end Semprons do not. * No AMD Durons have x64. * All AMD Opteron processors have x64. * All AMD X2, FX, and Athlon64 chips have x64. * All Intel Pentium D and Celeron D chips have x64. * All AMD Turion notebook processors have x64. * All Intel Core 2 processors (mobile, desktop, and server) have x64. * No Intel Core Duo notebook processors have x64. * No Intel Pentium M notebook processors have x64. list end Drivers are the death of x64. The second thing you must check is to see if all your hardware has x64 Vista driver support, either included in the OS or downloadable from the hardware vendor. At this point, many motherboard makers have failed to include the latest 5.1 sound and network drivers, and you might have to look to the chipset maker for drivers. For example, you can find for Gigabit LAN and 5.1 audio support. NVIDIA has ATI (AMD) has Creative has but its x64 support is sorely lacking, and it's either missing or in beta. While these are the fundamental hardware drivers you'll need, the killer for Vista x64 edition is finding drivers for obscure hardware like cameras, printers, scanners, and other accessories. You don't have to worry about 32 bit software compatibility in Windows Vista or XP x64, since they run natively and seamlessly, but drivers are an absolute killer. If you happen to find 32 bit drivers for your device but no 64 bit drivers, you're out of luck if you're running x64 Windows XP or Vista. For this reason, x64 edition for a typical consumer is usually not very practical because there are simply too many hardware peripherals you won't be able to use. Getting the computer itself to work is relatively easy; it's the one or two obscure devices that stops you dead in your tracks if you must have that device working. For this reason, no PC maker (that I'm aware of) will pre-load x64 edition of Windows on its PC because it will be a support nightmare. The bottom line is that you have to look at your own hardware limitations before you can make any kind of a transition. If all the hardware you want to use will work on Vista x64, it's well worth the transition. Warmest Regards, Allan Wong 3M Technology -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx