Hello, I'd like map softvare withj jaws 9.Search are streets and roods.Is this softvare?What is it? My walk need navigation. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:34 PM Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: silence in between Saying two messages >I often want shorter pauses, so customizability of this would be > interesting to me, though not a high priority. As for whether FS's > failure to implement new scripting features being, or not being > explained adequately by my supply-and-demand comparison, I can't say > when the line is crossed between "We can't do it" and "We don't want > to do it." I just want people to realize that the supply-and-demand > issue is real and is part of the equation, like it or not. My message > was not actually an emotional outburst, though it apparently looked > like one to some. > > And finally, as to the effect of Window-Eyes' scriptability on JAWS, > that will admittedly be interesting to see. The two products seem > markedly different in feel, and this will probably remain true even if > differences in functionality are reduced by this new power in WE. I > think this WE update will have effects on JAWS and on its position in > the market, though I can't say how fast. I also think this change in > WE effectively proves that scriptability was, from day 1, the right > design choice for JAWS because of the flexibility it added to the > product. It is a feature often misinterpreted, though probably not so > often by members of this list. <grin> > > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 01:35:43AM +1000, Geoff Chapman wrote: > hmm, regarding this silencing and pausing issue, and perhaps touching upon > some > of what jamal has talked about re sometimes getting > distinct lack of communication/feedback > from the fs company as regards user suggestions, - or at least not as > often > as one might wish, > (by the way I am afraid > myself that I'd have to agree with jamal's view that I too see this as > having > regretably seemingly become rather an unfortunately entrenched pattern > with > fs, and > not something I necessarily feel that's sufficiently or adequately > accounted > for by > pure supply and demand time prioritization alone, - Another well known > scripter whom I sent jamal's comments to for his input concurred, and > sermized himself, that fs may not really turn this around until they > actually begin > to feel it's effects in their hip pockets,) > Which they may soon with window eyes scripting on the horizon, so that > would > be great, > well, re pausing and indexing control, > I myself have felt for a very long time, that I've wanted far greater user > customization as to pause lengths after various punctuation marks, > independently controllable from speech rate settings. of course initialy > they should be dragged along with them in some kind of relative fashion, > as > they are now, but, I've felt for a long time, that a really desirable > customization feature, would be to be able to have this more user > controllable upon > demand. I've always thought compared to the old dectalk speech synth, > that > eloquence just rabbited on far too quickly after it's punctuation marks, > particularly ends of sentences, > and > sometimes of course, doesn't pause at all at various punctuation marks, > if you have the mode set to > things other than none, > which should also be user customizable in my view. > has anyone else ever thought this? I think for studying purposes, that > after some punctuation marks, some users would greatly benefit from having > just a tad more time gap between the finishing of one sentence or part of > a > sentence let's say, and it's next bit, for brain processing of the > information etc. > I just wondered if I was the only one who ever had wished this? > > From: "David Farough" <David.Farough@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 4:43 AM > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: silence in between Saying two messages > > >> I found that when I tested this using eloquence and the SAPI5 scansoft >> synthe, that the silence was much longer using SAPI5 synthesizers. >> >> My eloquence time worked out to be slightly more than 2 seconds and the >> Scansoft silences were closer to 20 seconds >> >> My eloquence speech rate is set to 90 and my scansoft rate is 13 >> which is approximately 65%. >> >> David Farough >> Application Accessibility Coordinator/coordonateur de l'accessibilit? >> Information Technology Services Directorate / >> Direction des services d'information technologiques >> Public Service Commission / Commission de la fonction publique >> Email / Courriel: David.Farough@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Tel. / T?l: (613) 992-2779 >> >>> "Smith, Alice A. HQ DCO" <Alice.A.Smith@xxxxxxx> 02:19 PM Friday, >> July 18, 2008 >>> >> Sina, >> >> I wrote similar code using Delay. It works but I didn't time it with a >> stopwatch. >> How did you arrive at the factors of 28 for Rate and 6 for Silence? >> How accurate is it? >> >> Alice >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Sotudehnia >> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 1:17 PM >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [jawsscripts] silence in between Saying two messages=20 >> >> Hi friends, >> I think the following can be a solution for=20 >> >> Saying two messages with a specific period of silence in between >> >> I sent it for test and I was waiting to get feedback on test result >> from >> any one who is interesting. But I did not get any answer yet.=20 >> >> I want to know does this one work on same way with different computer >> speed and TTS as it works on my computer? >> >> In this program, (That is my first time Scripting in jaws), I am using >> Pause >> >> function to provide two type of delay. >> >> One delay to provide enough time that is required to speech the first >> >> string, and second delay for requested silence time after reading the >> first >> >> string. >> >> because the speed rate of voice is assigned by user, I get this value >> by >> >> using the following function that return the current voice speech >> rate: >> >> GetSettingInformation (V_RATE,VCTX_GLOBAL , MinRate, MaxRate) >> >> The first and second parameters are two Constant which are coming from >> >> hjconst.jsh" header file. (notice to, the "Include" statement before >> start >> >> of script). and the third and forth parameters ar two variable which >> get >> the >> >> minimum and maximum of the speed rate of Voice Context or any things >> that >> >> is requested by the two first parameters. >> >> after that I am finding the length of the first string. Then in a >> formula >> >> all this values are combining together with silence time and two other >> >> constant numbers. >> >> The number 28 is for balancing the Rate and the number 6 is for >> balancing >> >> the requested silence time. >> >> All of them make the total number of the time that we are using the >> Pause >> >> function. >> >> As I said, the calculation is not very accurate but it works for the >> >> different string length. As you all know, it is easier to convert this >> >> script to a function. In this case the function has to include two >> >> parameters, FirstString and SilenceTime. and the return value, can be >> an >> >> integer to show if the function end by itself or someone hit a key to >> end it >> >> manually. >> >> the function "StopSpeech ()", is good for make any speech off before, >> and >> >> after the using saystring command.. >> >> Please let me know if it works for you. I Will be happy to get any >> >> feedback. >> >> ---------- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> include "hjconst.jsh" >> >> >> >> >> >> Script TestScripting () >> >> var int count >> >> var int CurrentRate, int MinRate, int MaxRate, int StrLen, int >> SilenceSecond >> >> var string FirstString, String secondString >> >> let SilenceSecond =3D 3 >> >> let FirstString=3D"The Script Manager is a JAWS script editing program >> with >> >> all the features necessary for you to create scripts" >> >> let secondString=3D"So, continue Talking." >> >> let CurrentRate=3DGetSettingInformation (V_RATE,VCTX_GLOBAL , MinRate, >> >> MaxRate) >> >> let StrLen=3DStringLength (FirstString) >> >> let count =3D (StrLen / CurrentRate +1) * 28 + SilenceSecond * 6 >> >> StopSpeech () >> >> saystring(FirstString) >> >> While (count > 0) && (not IsKeyWaiting ()) >> >> Pause () >> >> let count =3D count - 1 >> >> EndWhile >> >> StopSpeech () >> >> SayString (secondString) >> >> EndScript >> >> Regards, >> >> Sina Sotudehnia >> >> Independent Insurance Advisors Group >> >> Email: sina@xxxxxxxxxxx Web: www.IIAGROUP.CA >> >> Direct Tel: (416) 496-9300 >> >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts >> >> __________? >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts >> >> >> 100 Years Merits a Celebration! >> http://www.psc-cfp.gc.ca/100/index-eng.htm >> 100 ans, ?a m?rite une c?l?bration! >> http://www.psc-cfp.gc.ca/100/index-fra.htm >> >> >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts >> > > __________? > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > > -- > Doug Lee, Senior Accessibility Programmer > SSB BART Group - Accessibility-on-Demand > mailto:doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.ssbbartgroup.com > "While they were saying among themselves it cannot be done, > it was done." --Helen Keller > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts