[jawsscripts] maps and jaws
- From: "Demeter Viktor" <demeter.viktor@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:54:29 +0200
Hello,
I'd like map softvare withj jaws 9.Search are streets and roods.Is this
softvare?What is it?
My walk need navigation.
Thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:34 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: silence in between Saying two messages
>I often want shorter pauses, so customizability of this would be
> interesting to me, though not a high priority. As for whether FS's
> failure to implement new scripting features being, or not being
> explained adequately by my supply-and-demand comparison, I can't say
> when the line is crossed between "We can't do it" and "We don't want
> to do it." I just want people to realize that the supply-and-demand
> issue is real and is part of the equation, like it or not. My message
> was not actually an emotional outburst, though it apparently looked
> like one to some.
>
> And finally, as to the effect of Window-Eyes' scriptability on JAWS,
> that will admittedly be interesting to see. The two products seem
> markedly different in feel, and this will probably remain true even if
> differences in functionality are reduced by this new power in WE. I
> think this WE update will have effects on JAWS and on its position in
> the market, though I can't say how fast. I also think this change in
> WE effectively proves that scriptability was, from day 1, the right
> design choice for JAWS because of the flexibility it added to the
> product. It is a feature often misinterpreted, though probably not so
> often by members of this list. <grin>
>
> On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 01:35:43AM +1000, Geoff Chapman wrote:
> hmm, regarding this silencing and pausing issue, and perhaps touching upon
> some
> of what jamal has talked about re sometimes getting
> distinct lack of communication/feedback
> from the fs company as regards user suggestions, - or at least not as
> often
> as one might wish,
> (by the way I am afraid
> myself that I'd have to agree with jamal's view that I too see this as
> having
> regretably seemingly become rather an unfortunately entrenched pattern
> with
> fs, and
> not something I necessarily feel that's sufficiently or adequately
> accounted
> for by
> pure supply and demand time prioritization alone, - Another well known
> scripter whom I sent jamal's comments to for his input concurred, and
> sermized himself, that fs may not really turn this around until they
> actually begin
> to feel it's effects in their hip pockets,)
> Which they may soon with window eyes scripting on the horizon, so that
> would
> be great,
> well, re pausing and indexing control,
> I myself have felt for a very long time, that I've wanted far greater user
> customization as to pause lengths after various punctuation marks,
> independently controllable from speech rate settings. of course initialy
> they should be dragged along with them in some kind of relative fashion,
> as
> they are now, but, I've felt for a long time, that a really desirable
> customization feature, would be to be able to have this more user
> controllable upon
> demand. I've always thought compared to the old dectalk speech synth,
> that
> eloquence just rabbited on far too quickly after it's punctuation marks,
> particularly ends of sentences,
> and
> sometimes of course, doesn't pause at all at various punctuation marks,
> if you have the mode set to
> things other than none,
> which should also be user customizable in my view.
> has anyone else ever thought this? I think for studying purposes, that
> after some punctuation marks, some users would greatly benefit from having
> just a tad more time gap between the finishing of one sentence or part of
> a
> sentence let's say, and it's next bit, for brain processing of the
> information etc.
> I just wondered if I was the only one who ever had wished this?
>
> From: "David Farough" <David.Farough@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 4:43 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: silence in between Saying two messages
>
>
>> I found that when I tested this using eloquence and the SAPI5 scansoft
>> synthe, that the silence was much longer using SAPI5 synthesizers.
>>
>> My eloquence time worked out to be slightly more than 2 seconds and the
>> Scansoft silences were closer to 20 seconds
>>
>> My eloquence speech rate is set to 90 and my scansoft rate is 13
>> which is approximately 65%.
>>
>> David Farough
>> Application Accessibility Coordinator/coordonateur de l'accessibilit?
>> Information Technology Services Directorate /
>> Direction des services d'information technologiques
>> Public Service Commission / Commission de la fonction publique
>> Email / Courriel: David.Farough@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Tel. / T?l: (613) 992-2779
>> >>> "Smith, Alice A. HQ DCO" <Alice.A.Smith@xxxxxxx> 02:19 PM Friday,
>> July 18, 2008 >>>
>> Sina,
>>
>> I wrote similar code using Delay. It works but I didn't time it with a
>> stopwatch.
>> How did you arrive at the factors of 28 for Rate and 6 for Silence?
>> How accurate is it?
>>
>> Alice
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Sotudehnia
>> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 1:17 PM
>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] silence in between Saying two messages=20
>>
>> Hi friends,
>> I think the following can be a solution for=20
>>
>> Saying two messages with a specific period of silence in between
>>
>> I sent it for test and I was waiting to get feedback on test result
>> from
>> any one who is interesting. But I did not get any answer yet.=20
>>
>> I want to know does this one work on same way with different computer
>> speed and TTS as it works on my computer?
>>
>> In this program, (That is my first time Scripting in jaws), I am using
>> Pause
>>
>> function to provide two type of delay.
>>
>> One delay to provide enough time that is required to speech the first
>>
>> string, and second delay for requested silence time after reading the
>> first
>>
>> string.
>>
>> because the speed rate of voice is assigned by user, I get this value
>> by
>>
>> using the following function that return the current voice speech
>> rate:
>>
>> GetSettingInformation (V_RATE,VCTX_GLOBAL , MinRate, MaxRate)
>>
>> The first and second parameters are two Constant which are coming from
>>
>> hjconst.jsh" header file. (notice to, the "Include" statement before
>> start
>>
>> of script). and the third and forth parameters ar two variable which
>> get
>> the
>>
>> minimum and maximum of the speed rate of Voice Context or any things
>> that
>>
>> is requested by the two first parameters.
>>
>> after that I am finding the length of the first string. Then in a
>> formula
>>
>> all this values are combining together with silence time and two other
>>
>> constant numbers.
>>
>> The number 28 is for balancing the Rate and the number 6 is for
>> balancing
>>
>> the requested silence time.
>>
>> All of them make the total number of the time that we are using the
>> Pause
>>
>> function.
>>
>> As I said, the calculation is not very accurate but it works for the
>>
>> different string length. As you all know, it is easier to convert this
>>
>> script to a function. In this case the function has to include two
>>
>> parameters, FirstString and SilenceTime. and the return value, can be
>> an
>>
>> integer to show if the function end by itself or someone hit a key to
>> end it
>>
>> manually.
>>
>> the function "StopSpeech ()", is good for make any speech off before,
>> and
>>
>> after the using saystring command..
>>
>> Please let me know if it works for you. I Will be happy to get any
>>
>> feedback.
>>
>> ----------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> include "hjconst.jsh"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Script TestScripting ()
>>
>> var int count
>>
>> var int CurrentRate, int MinRate, int MaxRate, int StrLen, int
>> SilenceSecond
>>
>> var string FirstString, String secondString
>>
>> let SilenceSecond =3D 3
>>
>> let FirstString=3D"The Script Manager is a JAWS script editing program
>> with
>>
>> all the features necessary for you to create scripts"
>>
>> let secondString=3D"So, continue Talking."
>>
>> let CurrentRate=3DGetSettingInformation (V_RATE,VCTX_GLOBAL , MinRate,
>>
>> MaxRate)
>>
>> let StrLen=3DStringLength (FirstString)
>>
>> let count =3D (StrLen / CurrentRate +1) * 28 + SilenceSecond * 6
>>
>> StopSpeech ()
>>
>> saystring(FirstString)
>>
>> While (count > 0) && (not IsKeyWaiting ())
>>
>> Pause ()
>>
>> let count =3D count - 1
>>
>> EndWhile
>>
>> StopSpeech ()
>>
>> SayString (secondString)
>>
>> EndScript
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sina Sotudehnia
>>
>> Independent Insurance Advisors Group
>>
>> Email: sina@xxxxxxxxxxx Web: www.IIAGROUP.CA
>>
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