What would you say if Baum ask you to help pay the fee to FS to get a new 64-bit driver signed? Gary King w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zolo, Brian C Mr CIV US DISA GS271" <Brian.Zolo@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 12:17 PM Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Windows Live Mail and Other JAWS Scripts Updates > Hi, Gordon, I'm Brian Zolo from Gahanna, Ohio, USA, I'm with the > Department of Defense here in Columbus, Ohio, I've been following this > tread, I'm using a Brailliant 40 just fine with Jaws 11 once I got the new > driver from Freedom Scientific. I spoke with Eric Damery about this issue > because I'd been told by humanware technical support that they were > recommending that users not upgrade to Jws 11 because Baum wasn't on board > with the whole signed driver issue. Freedom Scientific does have a driver > for the Brailliant and Braille connect displays, right now it's only for > 32-bit operating systems, that's a pain as I've got a Dell laptop with > Vista 64-bit on it. If there's interest, I'll be glad to get in touch > with Eric Damery to see where things are with Baum on this issue if you > folks would like. Baum is the manufacturer for the Brailliant displays, > we really need to put pressure on them for change to be made as well. > Thanks so much, look forward to hearing from you soon, > feel free to e-mail me off list at bzolo1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, if you're on > skype, my skype id is brianzo1. > > Brian C. Zolo > DISN Customer Contact Center Support Services > E-mail: brian.zolo@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Phone number: commercial: 614-692-7124, DSN: 850-7124 > -----Original Message----- > From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Gordon.Luke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 16:03 > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Windows Live Mail and Other JAWS Scripts > Updates > > Hi > > I unfortunately though am a braille user of the Humanware Brailliant 80 > display which is not supported and the stance is really getting me > annoyed. > I'm not sure whether to moan more to FS or HumanWare. In the end it's me > the customer who suffers. This weekend though I am going to give > WindowEyes a serious go to see how it does perform for me. Trouble is > I've > invested a lot of time with Jaws in learning how to work the application > and to make scripting modifications for my applications and what's more I > do like the product. I also love the Brailliant displays. However > whenever I report a bug I hear absolutely nothing from FS and that's > really > poor in my book. > > Appologies for the rant. > > Gordon Luke > Capita IT (CAIM) > > > > Øyvind Lode > <oyvind.lode@lyse > .net> To > Sent by: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > jawsscripts-bounc cc > e@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject > [jawsscripts] Re: Windows Live Mail > and Other JAWS Scripts Updates > > 21/05/2010 16:49 > > Please respond to > jawsscripts@freel > ists.org > > > > > > > Don: > I agree! > I'm a Braille user and the new driver signing policy is indeed concerning > me. > Papenmeier has signed the deal so my Braille display works great with JAWS > 11 64-bit though. > I don't like the way FS is going and I wish I had a alternative to JAWS. > > -----Original Message----- > From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Donald Marang > Sent: 21. mai 2010 04:55 > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Windows Live Mail and Other JAWS Scripts > Updates > > I think I will give it a few days first to see if my email to support gets > escalated. Yes. Competition is the key. I am afraid FS is moving toward > litigation rather than inovation. Actually, that is not entirely correct, > but it is a great line. I am just concerned over their new braille driver > signing stance, even though I am not a braille user. > > Don Marang > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:57 PM > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Windows Live Mail and Other JAWS Scripts > Updates > >> don, have you communicated these concerns to eric damary or John Carson >> directly? If you haven't, I would. you may get some joy this way, as I >> believe you have a way of putting things, which just might get through? >> especially now that they've actually got some competition in this space > re >> windowEyes? >> what do people think. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 5:19 AM >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Windows Live Mail and Other JAWS Scripts >> Updates >> >> >>> no, >>> >>> the scripts do get circulated and used, its just that it's not generally >>> done by freedom scientific! >>> >>> my site is one place where this can be done, and if it's a major >>> scripting >>> success, freedom has been known to add it to an update, I think one of >>> the >>> folks out here, Jamal, has had scripts he worked on go into a FS update. >>> >>> don't give up on one persons troubles! >>> >>> inthane >>> proprietor, The Grab Bag, >>> for blind computer users and programmers >>> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com >>> Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises >>> "own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!" >>> custom made computers and peripherals to fit your needs! >>> www.alacorncomputer.com >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco@xxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:14 PM >>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Windows Live Mail and Other JAWS Scripts >>> Updates >>> >>> >>>> Well, there go any ideas I had of attempting to get into JAWS > scripting. >>>> *grin* >>>> >>>> Joe >>>> >>>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their >>>> sleeves, >>>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Donald Marang >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 5:32 PM >>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Windows Live Mail and Other JAWS Scripts Updates >>>> >>>> The following story points out a critical weakness in the JAWS >>>> Scripts Architecture! There should be a better process for >>>> updating user scripts when a JAWS update is released! I know >>>> some of you have made this easier for your particular scripts. >>>> This is something I would expect Freedom Scientific to resolve >>>> in general. However, I see little interest in scripting >>>> support from Freedom Scientific. >>>> I finally got Windows Live Mail to work acceptably with JAWS >>>> 11! I uninstalled the previous JAWS 11, including user >>>> settings and scripts, but left the shared components. Then I >>>> downloaded and installed the new 1447 version. My previously >>>> unresolved issues went away! Well, most of them. There are >>>> still annoying issues, which I expect happen for all of you; >>>> lack of auto completion feedback when typing into the To field, >>>> no first letter navigation of the folder list, and not all of >>>> the hotkeys to read or edit the headers work correctly. With >>>> the new update more of these keys now work, like the Date and >>>> To fields, with Alt + 2 and Alt + 3, respectively. The Subject >>>> field, Alt + 6, has always worked. Others, most notably, the >>>> From field, Alt +1, still does not work. >>>> >>>> I have a lot of scripts that I have written and also use >>>> several scripts created by other JAWS users. Some are merged >>>> using container files with the default scripts and other >>>> applications such as IE and Firefox. Previously, I had >>>> reinstalled all of these scripts over the old installation, I >>>> made sure all of the jsb binary files were updated. Evidently, >>>> that was not enough! I suppose some of the associated files >>>> like jsh header files never got updated until I completely >>>> removed my user settings folder! >>>> >>>> My conclusion is that until Freedom Scientific or a third party >>>> figure out how to properly update the scripts and their support >>>> files, using user created scripts for JAWS is too cumbersome >>>> for the average user! Heck, it had me stumped for almost a >>>> year! 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