[jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
- From: "David Peaslee" <peasleed@xxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 10:51:01 -0700
This is from JAWS 11:
FrontPageFrontPage is a fully functional Web development tool that
allows users to create and manage Websites. JAWS supports the Page,
HTML, Folders and Tasks views of this application, as well as the form,
Web site, and page setup wizards. Please visit http://www.microsoft.com
for more information on FrontPage.
Note: The information in this section has been verified for FrontPage
2000. The level of support JAWS provides for other versions of this
product may vary.
I hope this is helpful, however I use HotMetal Pro, it has an
accessibility checker and tag checker that works in JAWS.
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>>> "katherine Moss" 05/25/10 6:14 PM >>>
I'd love to download Oracle express 10G, but the darn company asks for
too
much information from the user.
-----Original Message-----
From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:01 AM
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
Yes and I also do the same, use the right language /technology for the
job.
These are just the popular ones. I normally use a variation of these on
each
projects, mixing and matching as I go. For example we already know ajax
relies heavily on javaScript, HTML, and XML, add some php and MySQL to
it
and you have some crazy possibilities. Or substitute php and MySQL with
Cold
Fusion and MySQL or Oracle db, and yet some more possibilities.
D!J!X!
-----Original Message-----
From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of black ares
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 1:47 AM
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
also I hand code things, but I use eclipse with specific editors for
html
and the language I use, because I like very much the code assist
feature.
In this way I can write in more languages, the curve of learning for a
new
language becomes smaller and I can code in what ever language the
customer
wants.
To stick to one technology is limititative and very unmotivating.
In my work I choose the technology after I see the requirements and I
choose
it according to the requirements.
Also I have made projects with a mixture of technologies and languages.
As an ide I use mostly eclipse.
----- Original Message -----
From: "D!J!X!"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:22 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>I personally hand code everything, either notePad or TextPad, I use
HTML,
> XML, JavaScript PHP and ColdFusion. I like to stick to these languages
as
> my
> customers can then make their own changes if they like, my experience
has
> been that not many are familiar with asp.net /C#. I've used
DreamWeaver
> and
> sometimes it generates so much unnecessary code that I spend too much
time
> fixing it up.
>
> D!J!X!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of miketerry-lists
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:33 PM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with
JAWS?
>
>
> Pardon me for jumping in on this thread late. What development
> language/ide/tool set do you use?
>
> I'm trying to decide what my next language/platform will be. Either
> asp.net, php or java.
>
> I'm leaning towards asp.net/c# as it's real popular around Phoenix.
>
> Thanks Mike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "D!J!X!"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 2:05 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with
JAWS?
>
>
> I personally have the advantage that my wife is a graphics designer,
so
> for
> my company, I do the coding, I even do the styles for the site, I
learned
> that as long as you really learn and understand the concepts of how
css
> works and the entire dom and how things are affected, you can at least
get
> that part done. The only 2 things my wife does for me is design the
needed
> graphics and choose the color scheme, as well as make sure that the
final
> product looks as I intended. And you are right, the websites I mostly
> build
> always have ajax effects, the graphics for the rounded corners (plane
> borders just don't cut it any more), the 3-d effects, the sliding,
fading
> or
> similar tranisitions of items, etc. Websites nowadays have to be
designed
> to
> be more like an application with more functionality and better looks.
> Those
> that don't have this effect on the users are only visitted if the user
> really needs that information. One of the things that I've found is
that
> for
> a lot of things using plane colors just doesn't cut it. For example
most
> website backgrounds don't use regular color codes to use as a
background.
> They are usually shades of different colors, gradients, different
designs
> etc. Sometimes it can be a graphic that's just a box filled with a
desired
> fancy color. To ensure the same display of it across browsers and
systems
> we
> use a graphic hat will esnure it looks the same across them all.
Sometimes
> we have to combine multiple graphics for different sections of the
site to
> give the site different effects such as 3d effects, or a pop up effect
> when
> a user mouses over a menu item etc.
> In the sighted world I've discovered they are dependent on seeing
things
> with graphics and charts and things of that nature, not just a plane
old
> text site. That's why my focus as a developer/designer is to bring
that
> modern look to a site while also developing accessible solutions for
those
> of us who use access technologies. In this way the customer (my
client)
> gets
> the best of both worlds: sighted users love the sites, effects, ease
of
> use
> and graphics, and those who use any kind of access technology can
still
> have
> an accessible site they can use. What helped me understand this better
was
> working at nasa, where I coded web appplications. You quickly begin to
> gain
> lots of experience and learn all about the differences between desktop
and
> web design.
>
> HTH, D!J!X!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of black ares
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:13 PM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with
JAWS?
>
> Let me ask about one minor thing....
> How do you choose the color scheme of an site?
> How do you know what color to use together with what color?
> How you are sure that what you are doing there is looking great?
> This are questions from an web developer/designer with experience in
the
> field.
> For now, I have a great theory in my experience and theoreticaly I
know
> that
> I can not combine red with green or other such combinations, but how
do
> you
> do fine ajustments?
> You know that in this days, the design of a site is based on grafics
with
> specific efects, to obtain for example a button with slide doors
efect?
> or to obtain round corners for different parts?
> How do you combain to obtain a color scheme which match with the logo
of
> that company you are developing/designing the site for?
> And this are minor questions you must answer before taking any major
> action.
> I am blind, I am for equality, but I am not ridiculous.
> I know that I can not edit graphics because I am blind and that is the
> case
> and also i know that with out graphics there are not trendy designs
for
> web
> sites.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "katherine Moss"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:54 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with
JAWS?
>
>
>>A growing community that I run for the blind, called Raeder 24, will
one
>>day
>> change that if we can. We will break through these odds, show folks
that
>> we
>> can, and then hopefully these companies will listen to us!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of black ares
>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:59 PM
>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with
JAWS?
>>
>> The concept of web design together with the concept blind is strange
>> enough:)
>> That is the reason that there is not web design software accesible.
>> You ask for this, as like as you would ask that adobe fotoshop must
be
>> accessible.
>> If you speak about web developing, not design,
>> there is eclipse which does a good job for me.
>>
>> Also there is a soft named artisteer which seems to be accesible.
>> But, you know what is the problem with these "web design/developing"
>> software?
>> The problem is that their automated job makes a lot of useless code.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "katherine Moss"
>> To:
>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:15 AM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with
JAWS?
>>
>>
>>> I'll be gradified when I am able to service the blind in this way.
For
>>> just
>>> because we're blind, we should be able to do things the same way
sighted
>>> folks can. We should have access to the same coding/scripting aids
that
>>> sighted folks do! Equal access means equall access, not equal
access
>>> for
>>> the average user only!
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 10:43 PM
>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with
JAWS?
>>>
>>> smile that's up to you, , for me, the best web design application is
>>> note
>>> pad, I hand code all my stuff.
>>>
>>> elf
>>> proprietor, The Grab Bag,
>>> for blind computer users and programmers
>>> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
>>> Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
>>> Specialists in customized computers and peripherals
>>> - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!
>>> www.alacorncomputer.com
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Katherine Moss"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:44 PM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with
JAWS?
>>>
>>>
>>>> You know, I've decided to get good at JAWS scripting combined with
C
>>>> sharp
>>>> and AutoIt and make a set of JAWS scripts for MS expression web
3.0.
>>>> For
>>>> me, that and VWD and VS 2010 are the only good web design programs.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 11:35 PM
>>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with
>>>> JAWS?
>>>>
>>>> here would be my recommendations:
>>>> 1A. note tab:
>>>> http://www.fookes.com/notetab/index.php
>>>>
>>>> 1B. Arachnophilia 4.0
>>>> http://www.arachnoid.com/arachnophilia/index_old.html
>>>>
>>>> 1C. HTMLKit
>>>> www.chami.com/html-kit/
>>>> The HTML Kit Scripts for JAWS can be downloaded from:
>>>> http://gutterstar.net/mbrs/html_kit_scripts.php
>>>>
>>>> 2. AJAX
>>>> (I don't have this ones URL)
>>>>
>>>> 1: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/
>>>>
>>>> 2: http://www.pagetutor.com/
>>>>
>>>> 3: http://www.quackit.com
>>>>
>>>> 4: "Most Wanted Ajax Techniques: 50+ Examples and Tutorials"
>>>> from Noupe.com
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>> inthane
>>>> proprietor, The Grab Bag,
>>>> for blind computer users and programmers
>>>> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
>>>> Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
>>>> Specialists in customized computers and peripherals
>>>> - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!
>>>> www.alacorncomputer.com
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "ferretdamce83"
>>>> To:
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 7:52 AM
>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] What web design programs work well with
JAWS?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This was posted on the general JAWS mailing list, but you guys
seem to
>>>>> be
>>>>> more computer savvy, rather than just chatting about computer
basics.
>>>>> Sorry to those that will have to see this post on both lists. Let
me
>>>>> know
>>>>> what your advice is and if scripts will help any (and, if so,
where
>>>>> can
>>>>> I
>>>>> get some?).
>>>>>
>>>>> I am using CPanel for organizing/administering my website. Quite a
few
>>>>> web
>>>>
>>>>> design programs are available to be added to MySQL. Some of these
are:
>>>>> Mambo, Joomla, PHPWCMS, Siteframe, TYPO3, etc. What do you
recommend?
>>>>> Anyone know of a website that tells you how to build your website
>>>>> step-by-step from start to finish?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> With respect,
>>>>> Lori in Ohio
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