[jawsscripts] Re: What Is A Dialog Box?
- From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 07:00:07 +1100
Wow! Cool explanations Soronel. Thanks for writing all those eh.
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From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 6:27 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What Is A Dialog Box?
> Umm, a window is just a region of screen space owned by a single
> program. Some types of windows can overlap other windows and provide
> user control over their position on screen. These are usually top
> level windows (the ones that show up on the task bar and sometimes a
> few others).
>
> Windows are controlled on the code side by a series of messages
> (create, show, activate, size, paint and so on, there are a great many
> such standard messages). The way the code responds to those messages
> determines its functionality.
>
> Top level windows can turn over part of the area they own to child
> windows, which can have child windows of their own until you run out
> of system memory (you are much more likely to run out of virtual
> desktop space foro all these windows to show up before that happens
> though).
>
> There are also quite a few standard window types for tasks that nearly
> every program needs at some point, these include buttons, edit
> controls, combo boxes etc. The system provides these so that
> programmers don't need to create them from scratch every time they
> start a new program.
>
> These standard window types usually have a fairly limited set of
> functionality but do it extremely well. The button window class for
> instance is responsible for drawing a piece of text, possibly an icon,
> is resposible for spacing the text and icon correctly. It responds in
> a specific manner to mouse button clicks (if you hold a mouse button
> down the button window is redrawn so that it appears depressed, if
> you continue to hold the mouse button down and move the mouse out of
> the button window the window is redrawn again, in the raised state, it
> will go back to the depressed appearance if you move the mouse back
> into the button area while still holding the mouse and so on).
>
> Most such visual niceties are not particularly relevant to blind folks.
>
> A dialog is a type of overlapped window that is provided by the
> system. In the usual case it does not allow itself to be resized, but
> its position can be changed. A dialog usually creates a set of
> controls from a template. It provides logic for child window
> selection, initialization and some other stuff. A dialog also usually
> prevents input from reaching windows that are owned by the same paren
> while the dialog is running.
>
> Specific examples of dialog you likely encounter on a regular basis
> would be the standard file open and save windows.
>
> On 2/29/12, mark <marktorgerson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi
>> I am relatively new at dealing with these windows that you
>> mentioned.
>> Can you give me some more insight on them please?
>>
>> God bless,
>> Mark
>>
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:25 PM
>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What Is A Dialog Box?
>>
>> The important thing about dialog boxes is that they usually disable
>> interaction with any 'lower' portion of the program that created them
>> (there are exceptions such as how find/replace is often implemented,
>> but those are a definite minority). The other major point about
>> dialogs is that they are much more likely than regular windows to use
>> the standard windows controls (buttons, edit, combo box and so on).
>> So dialogs are usually used to perform a single integrated (and
>> usually fairly concise task). From the windows programmer's
>> perspective dialogs offer some advantages, such as built in logic for
>> creating a set of controls from a template, handling the tab key to
>> switch controls, default controls and some other such items. But as
>> far as scripting goes for the most part dialogs (and their controls)
>> should just be more windows to deal with.
>>
>> On 2/28/12, Jackie McBride <abletec@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Mark, a dialog box is simply a series of controls that enable a
>>> "conversation" of sorts w/the user. An example is the typical "file
>>> open" dialog box u get when u press
>>> ctrl o, for example.
>>>
>>> On 2/28/12, mark <marktorgerson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>> I am trying to script a program on my own. When I am using the
>>>> Jaws
>>>> cursor to move around the screen, I keep hearing JAWS saying I am on
>>>> different dialog boxes. Apparently this is very important. However, I
>>>> have
>>>> no idea what it means. Any ideas are appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> God bless,
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> God Loves you!
>>>> You can visit my website at:
>>>> <http://christiantraditions.info> http://christiantraditions.info
>>>> Please visit my blog at:
>>>> <http://christian-traditions.blogspot.com>
>>>> http://christian-traditions.blogspot.com
>>>>
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