[jawsscripts] Re: Urgent! Accessibility For Sibelius Sound Set Editor?
- From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:02:18 -0700
1. I'm totally blind (I've been that way since birth).
2. I've been working with Music Software accessible to blind students since
I started college back in 2003.
3. I'm presently a college student.
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[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Geoff Chapman
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 4:40 PM
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Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Urgent! Accessibility For Sibelius Sound Set
Editor?
Fair enough Annabell.
Sound set edotir, not sound skulpting editor tool per Se. Ok I got that.
So do you have any further comments re the rest of my response?
Thanks much.
G.
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From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:59 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Urgent! Accessibility For Sibelius Sound Set
Editor?
> HI Annabelle.
>
> Since as you've no doubt observed, noone has as yet responded to your
> queeries for assistance/information re your sibelius sound editor
> accessibility issues,
> Although i have no personal knowledge at all of the particular
> software/sound editor component in question, I did used to mess with
> music
> editing Software myself, and can only tell you that you may be up for a
> potentially disappointing time, re your understandable desire for complete
> blind-friendly access to this type of software.
>
> May I ask you first, how Long you've been working with Jaws/music creation
> software yourself? And what education level student are you at present?
> Also, Are you yourself blind/vision impaired?
>
> Firstly I'll warn up front, that the below may not at all be something
> you'll be ready/wanting to hear. and I am sorry about this, and wish to
> prepare you before I convey.
>
> but, As you may know, Many appplications these days, are simply not
> developed with the blind/screen-reader access user in mind at all. And
> hense utilization of standard keyboard accessible/opperable controls, as
> you list below, is commonly not taken into consideration during
> development
> of many applications, most particularly in this kind of sound-editing
> environment..
> Would that be a fair call to say You think Jackie?
>
> I well remember when I was really into this kind of thing myself, how
> really
> emotionally irritating, and difficult, this was to hear.
>
> I felt blocked off from being able to fully express my stuff with what I
> wanted to do with music software, and many of us have felt this pain too.
> Not that this makes it any easier for you I know.
> Particularly If this is the first time you've struck these types of
> accessibility barriers .
>
> To make a non-standardized application,fully keyboard navigable, and
> editable, is thus notin any way, a simple process, even if it be a dooable
> one at all! And even this is not certain. a Great deal depends on simply
> a
> verritable host of factors, particularly related to
> how the developer has implemented/utilized her/his development
> environment,
> and the subsequent user-interface, (UI,) control of the application.
>
> I.e. much of it can often be very graphical/object oriented in nature,
> designed to be operated/nomipulated with the mouse only.
>
> This is not to say necessarily exclusively, but very often primarily.
>
> Have you been in touch with the Sibelius developers at all?
> There was a company called Dancing Dots, who used to produce JAWS scripts
> for sibelius access, but I've no idea whether they're still involved in
> doing that now, or what version jaws support has kept pace with.
>
> But, they're probably your best bet to be contacting first, regarding your
> issues, and to what level of developer contact they either have or may've
> had, to begin working on just how far you might expect to be able to go
> with
> this.
>
> their website HOmepage Address is:
> http://www.dancingdots.com
>
> And the part which I've just discovered talks about discontinuation of
> sibelius support, is:
> http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/SibSpeaking.htm
>
> They do talk about another product line though on that site which you may
> wish to check out.
>
> David Pinto who used to be the mainstream developer of that product, is a
> member of this list though, and perhaps he could tell you a little more
> about why that product needed to be discontinued, and/or what direction
> the
> app might've taken since then?
>
> I hope this helps a little annabell.
>
> Geoff c.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 3:30 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Urgent! Accessibility For Sibelius Sound Set
> Editor?
>
>
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>> Hi, it's Annabelle.
>> I use JAWS 10.0 with a bunch of applications, and I have run into a
>> serious
>> situation. I am having a lot of trouble accessing the Sibelius Sound Set
>> Editor with Adobe Air. Is there a way to make the Sound Set Editor
>> accessible to blind customers like me? In other words, make it accessible
>> with a menu bar, text-based buttons and controls, and
>> screenreader-friendly
>> options? Here is a list of controls that I've heard are recognized by
>> JAWS.
>> Note that these controls have to have text-based icons that go with them,
>> since JAWS does not read and recognize icons with bitmap images.
>> 1. 3-State Button
>> 2. Button
>> 3. Button Menu
>> 4. Checkbox
>> 5. Combo Box
>> 6. Dialogue
>> 7. Edit
>> 8. Edit Combo
>> 9. Extended Select List Box
>> 10. Graphic
>> 11. Group Box
>> 12. Header Bar
>> 13. Hot Key
>> 14. Left-Right Slider
>> 15. List Box
>> 16. List View
>> 17. MS Active Accessibility
>> 18. Multiline Edit
>> 19. Multi Select List Box
>> 20. Password Edit
>> 21. Radio Button
>> 22. Read Only Edit
>> 23. SpinBox
>> 24. Static
>> 25. Status Bar
>> 26. Tab Control
>> 27. Toolbar
>> 28. Tool Tip
>> 29. Tree View
>> 30. Up-Down Slider
>> If any of you fellow JAWS scripting members have any further information,
>> questions, or suggestions for me, please feel free to Email me at any
>> time,
>> as I check my Emails several times each day.
>> Kind Regards,
>> Annabelle
>> foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx
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