[jawsscripts] Re: NSIS HTML menu

  • From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 01:08:37 -0800

alright, am starting to follow you now, but I'll want to re-read the series 
of posts over again when I have gotten some sleep and some coffee, since 
its, for me, very early in the mourning my time, and I started this "day" at 
around 9 AM yesterday, smile

I'll read it through and see if I have anything that can assist you in one 
way or another, if first run through my e mails in the mourning do not show 
me that you have gotten a good working answer.

take care,
the elf
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jitendra" <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 12:49 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: NSIS HTML menu


>
> I was talking for the nullsoft scriptable system install,
> Ok, so you are lucky for asking this question, because I got a mail from 
> the
> NSIS developer, and I can give it to you, mail below.
> Read-on...
> Re: Accessibility problem with NSIS to screen-readers
>
> It is the best and pretty much only engine we could find that fits our
> needs of being small, compact, compatible and with predictable results.
> Partly due to those needs, that engine is not very customizable and
> doesn't allow to easily make the changes you suggest. On top of it,
> there is the fact that this piece is solely for prettying things up and
> is completely redundant. Everything needed also shows up in the start
> menu program group.
>
> If you find a simple solution or submit a patch to the wxWidgets code,
> I'd be happy to include it. But I don't intend to start heavy
> development on it as there are far more important things to do with NSIS.
>
> -Amir
>
> Jitendra wrote:
>
> Well, Thank you for your efforts,
> but I still see nothing using tab, shift+tab, alt key and applications 
> key.
> even arrow keys navigate me no where, I understand what you said, or
> what you use perhaps,
> is there no other HTML engine available? or any way to put the items
> that someone told me were there on the window, and they had the text
> lable with them like: "example, documentation, compile nsis scripts and
> more".
> in one listbox, and one should use arrow to select one item, and then
> click ok?
> or any possibility to move item-to-item using tab or any navigation keys?
> or perhaps a context menu invoked with the application key?
> Thank you, Jitendra.
> On 11/15/2008 8:26 PM, Amir Szekely wrote:
>
> Hi Jitendra,
> Sorry for the late reply, I was out of the country on vacation.
> As far as I know, it's only the NSIS Menu which is not accessible
> because the HTML engine we use for it just doesn't support the proper
> interfaces. The generated installer and everything but that uses
> standard controls and should be accessible using standard methods.
> I have checked again with our HTML engine and it seems it might have
> some basic support for it now. We use wxWidgets' wxHTMLWindow. I have
> compiled two new versions of the NSIS Menu for you to test. If one of
> them works with JAWS, let me know and I'll include them in the next
> version. If not, we'll just have to wait for wxWidgets to add proper
> support.
> http://nsis.sourceforge.net/NSIS%20Menu%20with%20accessibility.zip[1]
> http://nsis.sourceforge.net/NSIS%20with%20access%20and%20clipboard.zip[2]
> As for NSIS Menu itself, you don't really need it. It's just a "pretty"
> HTML window with links to basic starting points. It's inherently
> redundant and you're not missing out on anything important by not using 
> it.
> -Amir
> Jitendra wrote:
>
> Hello, I am Blind, and use JAWS for windows as my screen-reader,
> I installed the latest version of NSIS today, when I opened it, it was
> like a plain board for me, JAWS read nothing, no buttons using tab,
> shift+Tab and any arrow keys, and no other keyboard shortcuts I found,
> though the documentation was very nice, I love  it, but I found no topic
> in it dealing accessibility.
> Hope you understand what I want to impress on to you,
> so if possible, in your next release, you might want to think of the
> blind and make NSIS Accessible using standard window classes like
> buttons, lists and other controls and easy navigable as well.
> Thank yu, Jitendra.
>
>
>
> On 11/16/2008 1:54 PM, Matthew2007 wrote: Inthane, nice to hear from you.
> We're both up late burning the midnight oil once again. Yes, completely 
> off
> topic, I know--sorry. Matthew ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Elf"
> <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>[3] To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[4] Sent:
> Saturday, November 15, 2008 11:25 PM Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: NSIS HTML
> menu where is this? if we can go to where ever this is, we can see what 
> may
> be the problem. inthane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jitendra"
> <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>[5] To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[6] Sent:
> Saturday, November 15, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: [jawsscripts] NSIS HTML menu
> Hello friends, I found NSIS html menu or window inaccessible, no tab and
> other navigation keys work there, any scripts or tips out there? Thank 
> you,
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