[jawsscripts] Re: MsWord 2007 CrossReference field back end code reading
- From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 00:46:42 +1000
Hey thanks Dale for this info and idea. I'll certainly try and find out if
it might be a Word problem, though at present it seems unlikely to me, that
anything like this is being displayed on the screen. Jaws pronounces it in
a kind of way that suggests it's trying to read some back end code junk,
that internally helps word know which cross reference is which, and Jaws is
just picking it up. I'm fairly sure during my brief testing with it too,
that hitting ReadCurrent Word, after routing JawsToPc, yielded nothing like
the junk jaws reads when in pcCursor mode and arrowing over it, or during a
say All or SayLine etc.
Has anyone any other clues about cross Reference reading in msWord 2007?
does anyone else use it to that extent to be able to test this for me with
any versions of jaws11?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Leavens" <dleavens@xxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:47 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: CrossReference field back end code reading MsWord
2007? what event might be doing this?
> Hello Geoff,
>
> Just in case I can help you from going down an unproductive path I have
had
> a similar problem with Word in the past using links. Rather than have a
file
> name highlighted, that is, the intended displayed text label for a link,
> Word would show the path and file name in a pair of squared brackets. This
> turned out to be a setting in Worde, another of those Microsoft
occasionally
> randomly turned on features. I had the devil of a time discovering the
cause
> and just about the time I would forget the cause this feature would turn
> itself back on.
>
> Point is that it was not a JAWS setting or issue but a Word one. I again
> don't remember the final cause, something in the File menu I think and
> something among the print or page display options I think.
>
> I hope this is helpful and not a red herring, just that I spent a lot of
> time chasing down wrong paths and would have missed it without someone
else
> figuring it out.
>
> I have since retired and no longer use that system.
>
> Dale Leavens.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 1:17 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] CrossReference field back end code reading MsWord
> 2007? what event might be doing this?
>
>
> > Hi Scripters.
> >
> > A lawyer friend of mine who obviously uses both trackChanges, and Cross
> > referencing features of msWord 2007, on both a windows 7 and xp Pro
loaded
> > machines,
> > has indicated to me a number of issues He's interested in my looking
into,
> > regarding non-optimal performance of both these features on his machine,
> > using I think the second latest update of jaws11? maybe build 1147? I've
> > just forgotten now exactly the build number he's got.
> > Unfortunately, I don't have MsOffice installed at all, either 2003 or
> > 2007,
> > so diagnosing this is obviously proving quite tricky for me.
> > And eventually I'll no doubt have to go into his office to do this
> > properly,
> > but, just as a stop gap, thought I'd ask you knowledgeable dudes up here
> > about this particularly frustrating problem he has?
> >
> > The deal I'm asking about today, is one he's demoed to me last saturday.
> > when he's placed a crossReference into a document, obviously referencing
> > another point, as one arrows into this field, andI think also upon his
> > just
> > reading the document using a SayLine or even SayAll, Jaws will
incredibly
> > undesirably read this whole bunch of backEnd code to him, before tacking
> > on,
> > at the very end, the actual crossReference number which he actually
needs
> > to
> > hear.
> > I heard this couple days ago now, so regretably for this queery, my
memory
> > as to the exact order/content of the spoken mesage is now faded, but,
> > as an example, it might say something like:
> > "Ref field, then something in a really high caps like sounding voice,
with
> > small pauses each side of that, then , something like, "3 4 7 1 2 9 7 5
3
> > 7
> > 1 4 / r / h Ref3.
> >
> > Something really bizzarre like that? has anyone else ever seen/heard of
> > this? and, any clues as to How I might even begin to
> > track down what kind of event/function might be being triggered in
> > providing
> > this kind of announcement?
> >
> >
> > I did the obvious thing of looking a bit through the MsOffice2007.jsm,
and
> > WinWord2007.jsm files, and through associated jss files as well, but, I
> > was
> > trapsing around in the dark a little really, as there wasn't a lot to go
> > on
> > given my current knowledge of what might be being triggered here?
> >
> > any thoughts most greatfully recieved?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Geoff c.
> >
> >
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