[jawsscripts] Re: Jaws and volume control
- From: "Andre Williams" <andre.williams.1965@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 22:16:19 -0800
Don. I'm definitely going to follow up on your suggestion, but can you
confirm whether or not this utility will raise the jaws volume independent
of the master windows 7 audio?
Andre
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 10:03 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jaws and volume control
They are not assigned because they do not work well. Look at NirCMd.exe, it
has many useful functions. The link for his small 38 kB utility is provided
below. It can be placed in the user's JAWS Settings directory with your
scripts and called from the scripts. I quickly looked for my backups of
attempts to raise and lower the volume level of the active application. As
I said before, the difficulty I ran into was the string to identify the
application, which needed to match the label in the volume mixer. I do have
examples I started to use in an Screen Capture / OCR JAWS Script I wrote,
mostly for use with VMware, that called nircmd to save an image of the
active window to a file. It then used a Microsoft Office COM object to
perform the OCR. Others said it worked, but was clumsy. The COM object
never worked reliably on my computer. The nircmd utility worked flawlessly.
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/nircmd.html
Don Marang
There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real
substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am working
on things that matter.
Dean Kamen
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From: "Andre Williams" <andre.williams.1965@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 10:34 PM
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jaws and volume control
> Is there any reason why FS has never pushed the volume up and volume down
> script as a feature of jaws? Its a clear necessity when listening to MP3
> files such as music and you do not want the jaws volume to go along with
> the
> increased master volume. I can not recall anyone before joining this list
> and Don informing that this script exists. In fact, its odd that this
> scrip
> exist but does not have any keystroke attached. I talked to FS about this
> problem and they said this could not be done. Its because they don't
> really
> offer much in terms of practical solutions that I sought out help from
> this
> list.
> Andre
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 7:11 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jaws and volume control
>
>
> clearly it's a bug then with the windos7 implementation of this. Best
> write
> to fs about it and inform them I'd say.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hamid AITOUZNAG" <hamid.maier@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 9:21 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jaws and volume control
>
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> In my Xp machine, the script works pretty well increasing and decreasing
>> elequence as well, however, in my windows 7, i still couldn't get it to
>> work. As andre stated, it does echo softer and louder but without effect.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hamid AITOUZNAG
>> "We never value what we have until we lose it!".
>>
>> Skype: hamidgeni
>>
>> MSN: hamid.maier@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> On 06/11/2010 20:50, Andre Williams wrote:
>>> May I ask why? If there is a valid technical explanation I'll stop
>>> searching, but if its because you don't think so or you heard it
>>> somewhere,
>>> I'm sorry but this is not the level of credibility I'm looking for, and
>>> I'm
>>> thinking this might still be possible. (Smile).
>>> Andre
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Don Marang"<donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To:<jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 12:35 PM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jaws and volume control
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks. That explains a lot!
>>>
>>> Don Marang
>>>
>>> There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any
>>> real
>>> substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am
>>> working
>>> on things that matter.
>>> Dean Kamen
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Negoslav Sabev"<negi4a@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 1:52 PM
>>> To:<jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jaws and volume control
>>>
>>>
>>>> Be sure that you use sapi5 voice to make it work. Eloquence can not be
>>>> controled this way.
>>>>
>>>> Negoslav
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Andre Williams"<andre.williams.1965@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To:<jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:32 AM
>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jaws and volume control
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you Don, but the jaws keyboard manager suggestion doesn't seem
>>>>> to
>>>>> work. I did exactly as you described and assigned control + F11 and
>>>>> Control
>>>>> + F12 to raise and lower the volume. The assigning of these hotkeys
>>>>> went
>>>>> just fine, but when I hit these hotkeys nothing happens. Is there
>>>>> something
>>>>> else I might be able to try? Jaws does state volume up and volume
>>>>> down,
>>>>> it
>>>>> just doesn't do it. Why do you think FS never bothered to create what
>>>>> seems
>>>>> like such a necessary hotkey? Is it not possible with Jaws? I'm
>>>>> thinking
>>>>> that if GW Micro could pull it off, FS should not have much problems
>>>>> either?
>>>>> (Shrug).
>>>>> Andre
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Don Marang"<donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To:<jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 9:51 PM
>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jaws and volume control
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There are already JAWS Scripts for increasing and decreasing both the
>>>>> master
>>>>> and voice volume. They just do not have any keystroke normally set.
>>>>> Go
>>>>> into the Keyboard Manager, press Control + Shift + d to open the key
>>>>> assignments for default. Look for the individual functions, like
>>>>> IncreaseVoiceVolume(), press Control + a to add a new key assignment
>>>>> and
>>>>> follow the prompts.
>>>>>
>>>>> These scripts have been around since 5.1 or earlier. Now that Windows
>>>>> 7
>>>>> and
>>>>> Vista can individually set volume levels for each application with the
>>>>> volume mixer, I wanted JAWS to be able to adjust the volume level for
>>>>> the
>>>>> current application. I have been looking at this for a while. There
>>>>> is
>>>>> a
>>>>> small command line program, nircmd.exe, that I can call from a script
>>>>> to
>>>>> perform the action. The difficulty I ran into was what you were
>>>>> thinking.
>>>>> The program does not physically open the volume mixer, but the exact
>>>>> application name string in the volume mixer needs to be provided. Not
>>>>> only
>>>>> do I not know how to get this, but it is different between Vista and
>>>>> Windows
>>>>> 7. If anyone figures out how to do this, let me know. I think it
>>>>> would
>>>>> be
>>>>> nice to lower the volume of any application, such as Internet Explorer
>>>>> quickly!
>>>>>
>>>>> Don Marang
>>>>>
>>>>> There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any
>>>>> real
>>>>> substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am
>>>>> working
>>>>> on things that matter.
>>>>> Dean Kamen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Andre Williams"<andre.williams.1965@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 8:03 PM
>>>>> To:<jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Jaws and volume control
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have just joined this list in an attempt to save my hearing.
>>>>>> (laugh).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am curious if anyone has managed to script jaws so that within the
>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>> 7 master volume control, the jaws entry can be adjusted with hotkeys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As many may or may not know, Window eyes uses a different volume
>>>>>> control
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> windows sounds and the screen reader. If they can do it then why
>>>>>> can't
>>>>>> jaws,
>>>>>> right? I would like to find a way of scripting jaws to accomplish
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> goal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To begin, does anyone know the exact name of the volume mixer entry
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> jaws
>>>>>> output? I imagine I first need to know what it is I'm going to
>>>>>> manipulate
>>>>>> before I can script it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So far I go to run and type sndvol and hit enter. The volume mixer
>>>>>> pops
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> and I can tab to the separate audio streams.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How can I find a path to the jaws audio stream in an effort to create
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> script that will allow me to adjust the volume?
>>>>>> If this has already been done, please please convey how I can do
>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm using jaws 12 on a Windows 7 home premium 64 bit computer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andre
>>>>>>
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