That governmental use was probably the original intent of feature development but now its being touted as being developed for the rest of us. There are probably few jaws users out there that don't have the restrictions you've outlined when using jaws at home. In other words, just a handful of us have this corporate use limitation and can find similar solutions without it costing $190--the cost of my SMA. There is lots of free software out there including a utility built right into windows one can use that does not depend on printing and scanning a document to run this type of OCR, so the time consuming process of printing and scanning a 15 page document is not a valid comment. Jonathan also said that for the first time this feature allowed him to know the total of his monthly phone bill--in other words, isn't this feature the greatest thing ever. I'm pretty sure Jonathan is resourceful enough to click on a link on that web page and get the total for his phone bill. His words just come off to me as needlessly insincere and manipulative. Overall, I just don't see this feature as worthy of a hit on my SMA. A-W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 12:38 PM Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jaws 13 OCR Wow... I can't address Jonathan Mosen's comments having failed to notice them for myself, but I for one think this feature will prove useful in some environments where it is impossible to access screen text by more direct means and also not permitted to install third-party software willy-nilly. This applies to a lot of corporate settings I've seen in my 11 years of scripting JAWS in work settings. Printing and recognizing a screen from paper, by the way, is so much slower than this, even if you have Matrix-speed agility (pun on movie and printer is intended there), that I simply don't recognize that approach as comparable in work settings such as I describe. If a coworker asks you to read a 15-page PDF and it's all images, you could indeed do that, even though again this approach should be much faster; but if it's a question of reading and interacting with a graphic screen containing text that JAWS normally can't see, printing and scanning the screen will not let you find and actually click on the Next button. I confess, I'm accustomed to seeing the naysayers soon after any release of any software from a large-market-share company (that would apply to JAWS, Microsoft, and even Apple now); but this is one feature of JAWS that I actually thought would fly above all that. Disclaimer: I do not work for Freedom Scientific. I work for a company that works with various screen reader vendors and many government and private organizations to improve the ability of blind employees to do their jobs in the workplace. I have written more scripts for JAWS than for any other screen reader, but I have also scripted for Window-Eyes on a number of occasions and have contributed a small amount of code to NVDA (Skype related, that was). On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:23:54PM -0700, Andre Williams wrote: Guys, this seems like another useless jaws feature. This OCR thing is almost exactly what one can do with a screen capture utility built into Windows or what you can download get for fee. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Take-a-screen-capture-print-your-screen Yeah, this screen capture process might be slightly faster with jaws 13, but is this worth a hit on one's SMA? I say h no! If you listen to the FS podcast you will also come across something to the effect of Jonathan saying that scriptors on this list were all excited about this new feature. I don't recall a single post on this list commenting on this feature. This makes Jonathan less than credible but I don't fall for company BS about their own products anyways. Furthermore, I wil now accept Jonathan's comments with a handful of salt. He's lots almost total credibility with me with this comment at it is blatantly disingenuous. He also claimed this feature to be a game changer in screen reader technology. A-W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 8:00 AM Subject: [jawsscripts] Jaws 13 OCR So, have any of you played with the OCR feature in Jaws 13 beta yet? I managed to register a program last night, whose initial registration screen was formerly invisible to Jaws. Too bad that once I registered the program, the rest of the application turned out to be invisible as well. *LOL* So far, we can ocr and then read or mouse click on the results. In what ways could this new information gleaned through OCR be tied to other Jaws functions? I'm thinking it would be nice to be able to put the Jaws cursor on part of the OCR results and transfer the text into the graphics labeler, for example. Chris __________??? View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts __________??? View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts -- Doug Lee, Senior Accessibility Programmer SSB BART Group - Accessibility-on-Demand mailto:doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.ssbbartgroup.com "While they were saying among themselves it cannot be done, it was done." --Helen Keller __________� View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts __________� View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts