My final thought is this: If you don't like the features, nobody's making you buy the product/beg an agency for the upgrade. I personally won't upgrade to JFW13, it's a useful feature but not worth my money. JFW12 is just fine, at least for when I rarely use JFW anyway. Alex On 9/16/11, Christopher Chaltain <chaltain@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I can't think of another company, accessibility related or not, that > doesn't go after filling up the feature matrix first and getting dinged > for not caring about existing customers, quality, bug fixes and so on. > IMHO, FS isn't any better or worse than any other company or product I > can think of in this respect. > > It also seems to me that FS, MS or most any company is in a no win > situation. If FS came out with a JFW 13 that was mostly focused on bug > fixes and performance then people would resent having to pay an SMA for > something they should have gotten in the first place or would complain > about having to pay for something that was such a small change from the > previous version. If they add a new feature then there will be those who > aren't interested in that feature and those who resent the fact that FS > has implemented a new feature instead of fixing their pet bug. > > Well, that's just my $0.02. I'll go back to wearing out my delete key. > > On 16/09/11 16:31, gary melconian wrote: >> Hello I beg to differ. I have been with a few other access tech companies, >> an they have first of all fixed any issues that customers have had and >> then >> added new features and that is the way if we want to have stable and >> useable >> products and bells and whistles that are not useful to us but to impress >> the >> shareholders of Fs and who cares if the Shareholder don’t have paying >> customers and then who is going to by this piece of shit which I have >> seen >> lately been a toy and not a useful productivity tool as it use to be in >> the >> passed. I se no use in renewing sma's if fs keeps this crap up with its >> customers. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of G-Dog >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 12:44 PM >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jaws 13 OCR >> >> Look man you don't byte the hand that feeds you Bro and JM has bounced >> around quite a bit over the years. With such a small market there is >> bound >> to be the odd indiscretion notice by people. >> No matter how ludicris the remarks, he's just doing his job >> Now if FS would do there's and fix stability and bugs, then that, would, >> be, >> >> quote Game changeing unquote! >> because all the target community developers focus on features, not >> performance for new upgrades. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Andre Williams" <andre.williams.1965@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 1:23 PM >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jaws 13 OCR >> >> >> Guys, this seems like another useless jaws feature. This OCR thing is >> almost >> exactly what one can do with a screen capture utility built into Windows >> or >> what you can download get for fee. >> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Take-a-screen-capture-print-your >> -screen >> >> Yeah, this screen capture process might be slightly faster with jaws 13, >> but >> is this worth a hit on one's SMA? I say h no! >> >> If you listen to the FS podcast you will also come across something to the >> effect of Jonathan saying that scriptors on this list were all excited >> about >> this new feature. I don't recall a single post on this list commenting on >> this feature. This makes Jonathan less than credible but I don't fall for >> company BS about their own products anyways. Furthermore, I wil now accept >> Jonathan's comments with a handful of salt. He's lots almost total >> credibility with me with this comment at it is blatantly disingenuous. He >> also claimed this feature to be a game changer in screen reader >> technology. >> >> A-W >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 8:00 AM >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Jaws 13 OCR >> >> >> So, have any of you played with the OCR feature in Jaws 13 beta yet? >> >> I managed to register a program last night, whose initial >> registration screen was formerly invisible to Jaws. Too bad that >> once I registered the program, the rest of the application turned >> out to be invisible as well. *LOL* >> >> So far, we can ocr and then read or mouse click on the results. >> In what ways could this new information gleaned through OCR be tied >> to other Jaws functions? I'm thinking it would be nice to be able >> to put the Jaws cursor on part of the OCR results and transfer the >> text into the graphics labeler, for example. >> >> Chris >> >> __________� >> >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts >> >> __________� >> >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts >> >> __________� >> >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts >> >> __________� >> >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts >> > > > -- > Christopher (CJ) > chaltain@xxxxxxxxx > __________� > > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > > __________� View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts