[jawsscripts] Re: Is there only one place where i can get jaws scripts for i tunes to work with jaws version 8.0?
- From: "Donald Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 00:04:32 -0400
I bet it is accessible with Voice Over! Now all that you have to do is buy
a $2,000 Mac. OMG, that was Apple's evil plan all along! <grin>
Don Marang
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From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 1:14 PM
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Is there only one place where i can get jaws
scripts for i tunes to work with jaws version 8.0?
> Hi David/scripters.
>
> unfortunately david, ITunes 9 totally sucks in my view!
> And I don't at all like the direction ITunes has gone, nor apple's seeming
> unawareness of the inaccessibility problems which not only remain from 8,
> but are worsened in my view, in 9.
> In that you pretty much gotta have jaws11 even to access the buy and
> preview
> buttons, in the new html only rendering of the iTunes store listBox! jaws
> just can't
> see them in earlier versions I don't think, even forgetting about scripts.
> you don't need scripts to access most features of ITunes really in my
> view,
> either Itunes 8.2.1.6, with earlier versions of jaws, though there is a
> configuration change they suggest you make to jaws8 if you want to run it
> with iTunes 8 successfully,
> I'll research that more if you need me too,
> or using ITunes 9, with
> jaws11. This wasn't so much FS's fault though, but anoying apple! for
> breaking the itunes store relatively normal navigable listBox interface
> which they had in version 8 and earlier,
> and which in my view rendered a far in a wayz superior experience
> to the clunky html MSAA rendered interface they got now. which can't even
> access the wishList so far as I can see. Nor can you see any of the list
> of
> songs with the jaws Cursor onScreen any more, for manual dragging and
> dropping to temporary playlists, like you can in iTunes 8, to work out
> from
> your shopping cart feature, which they've also totally taken out of
> iTunes9,
> which actual songs you'd like to gift to someone, in a pre-mixed playList
> etc. All that seems to be inaccessible with the latest ITunes9 from my
> experience here. even with jaws 11.
>
> if anyone has different info to hsare, please do! I very
> often with itunes8 on my laptop, do this: add songs to the shopping cart
> that I find, different versions of backing tracks for example, then cull
> them down by shuffling them via jaws manual Drag and Drop, to another
> playlist that I create, to help me work out which songs/versions I really
> do want to purchase.
> I would also do this for gifting music, of an individual mix of songs I'd
> create, by dragging the songs from the itunes store version 8 results old
> listbox, and dropping them into a newly created playList. Then I could use
> JawsCursor to find this list, move just to the right of the end of it's
> name
> with altShiftRightArrow, a few pixels, and click, until it offers me the
> dialog to either create an IMix, or gift this playlist.
> From my investigations so far, open to being corrected, I can't see how
> you
> can do that now
> with iTunes 9, because, as I say, the itunes store results list box is no
> longer seeable with jawsCursor.
> and the shopping cart feature is gone.
>
> Also, you can no longer flip speedily between items in the results list
> either, with right/left arrows, which you could do in Itunes 8, for the
> same
> reasons. f6 just no longer brings you to that listbox, even though it's
> still there in the middle of the screen for sighted people.
> They've just decided not to provide normative keyboard access to it! which
> as I guess you can hear, I'm somewhat disappointed about.
>
> jawsCursor can no longer manually read any of the ITunes store interface
> either, at least on my system. and because the items are not in a
> navigable
> list Box interface any more,you can't even try copy/pasting methods from
> the
> store to another playList either.
> plus, in ITunes9, the wishList feature, has replaced the very useful
> shoppping cart we had in itunes8, but, so far as I can tell, it doesn't
> seem
> accessible with version 9. in that I've not seen the AddToWishList buttons
> become accessible, even in html land. However, my knowledge may be
> slightly
> out of date, because my itunes9 version on desktop, has been broken for
> several weeks,
> a few months, due to another issue on a port which I can't yet resolve. so
> if any of this has been fixed in the latest itunes9.1.1, then I may well
> not
> be aware of this. I truly hope that it might be!
>
> if you wanna install Itunes 8.2.1x, you could no doubt look for it
> somewhere
> like
>
> http://www.oldversion.com
>
> or similar?
>
> oh and the kicker?
> be aware, that if you do install itunes 8, and someone gifts you any
> music?
> you can't redeem those gifts unless you upgrae to version 9!
> Sigh.
> grrr!
> you can however, still buy songs, and actually gift the music yourself,
> from
> ITunes 8.2.1.6.
>
>
> Here's one URL for the download of itunes8.2.1.6 that I found which might
> help.
>
> http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iTunes8/061-6717.20090715.XsE4R/iTunesSetup.exe
>
> of course, uninstalling your current ITunes9 version, to roll back to
> this,
> won't be a simple process either, as itunes9 is a huuuuge 94 meg beasty,
> coming with quicktime, and about 4 other components, making 6 in all, to
> be
> uninstalled, and cleanly and in certain order even,
> to really get back to a totally clean system, which you'd probably want if
> you truly wanted to install this earlier version of ITunes8.
>
> a page from apple which details how to achieve this, can be found at:
>
> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1925
>
>
> hth.
> geoff c.
>
>
> Original Message -----
> From: "david ingram" <dingram269@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 8:38 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Is there only one place where i can get jaws
> scripts
> for i tunes to work with jaws version 8.0?
>
>
>> Hi list members, i have the next to latest version of i tunes on my
> computer and i'd like to know if there is more than one person who has
> written jaws scripts for i tunes, and if so, where can i get the scripts
> from? I don't want to have to pay $400 just to upgrade my version of jaws
> from 8.0 to 11 just to get the latest version of the j- tunes scripts.
> Does
> any one have any suggestions? Thank you.
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