[jawsscripts] Re: Help for my first scripting experience...

  • From: "Vincenzo Rubano" <vincenzorubano@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:45:18 +0200

Hi Geoff,
thanks for your answer....
I don't need to use these apps to school, but I'd like to create dance songs 
(like a producer), and the accessible editors I tryed don't help me to do 
this... Infact, sonar, for example, doesn't have an integrated piano roll to 
insert the notes into a song...It only supports external keyboards.
I am going to try reaper, I don't know if it can help me....
Ah, yes, I have already installed these two programs on my computer and I'm 
trying to use them with jaws (creating scripts, using the jaws cursor)... 
But it's too hard....
Infact, there are some graphics (which are invisible to jaws cursor) that 
must be clicked to insert the note into the pattern of the song....
Also, there are lots of graphics (they are visible to jaws cursor) that must 
be clicked to open a window (which is not accessible too) which shows a 
cursor to move to select the effect percent (it is a slidebar on the 
mixer)...
I think it is not for me, unfortunately!
                                          Vincenzo.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 7:02 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Help for my first scripting experience...


> hi incenzo.
>
> I would only echo Jackie's comments to you at this point really, as 
> perhaps
> double confirmation for you.  I'm not a long time scripter, only a very
> shortTime one. But, I have had some experience in audio and midi editing
> software over the years.
> but, again, I can only echo Jackie's comments,
> that to make audio editing programs accessible,
> is, not, an easy task!  And I'd suggest that a great deal more experience 
> at
> scripting than you currently sound like you have, would be necessary to 
> get
> anywhere near the useable results your after, if the app does not "talk"
> well out of the box.
> which of course, most of them don't.
>
> If you need this for school projects, and you've listed these two apps as
> being suggested by your teachers, you may wish to check out an already
> scripted, and thus very accessible audio editing application, called 
> Sonar?
>
> after maximizing this window so the URL appears on one single line, try:
>
>
> https://www.cakewalk.com/support/kb/Reader.aspx?ID=20081217 -
>
>
> and perhaps download the trial version of Sonar?
>
> However, I would suggest also, perhaps before doing that, joining the 
> JSonar
> email list, subscribable from the JSonar site here:
>
>
> http://www.jsonar.org/drupal/content/support-jsonar-users
>
>
> when there, use h till you get to the heading:
>
> JSonar Discussion Email List
>
> I don't know whether the free scripts that the JSonar project have
> developed, are compatible with the trial version of sonar either. And 
> then,
> of course, even if they are, and bring you the joy your after, it's a
> purchaseable product, and the producer version, which is their top of the
> line product, is not cheap! Also ask them on the JSonar mailing list,
> whether anyone up there knows whether cakewalk's more afordable lower end
> versions of sonar, are compatible with the JSonar scripts or not.
>
> I know this is not optimal info for you, in that you wish to be using the
> same apps as your friends/other students will be. I fully realize that.
>
> it's the same for all of us eh.  So don't feel at all alone in dealing 
> with
> those feelings.
>
>
> At this point in our world's development,
> As blind people,
> I personally think It's probably unrealistic to expect that we will be 
> able
> to operate identical software to that of our friends, particularly when
> there's no corporat backing to pay for scripts to be developed.  Script
> development for applications, just sos' you know, can take weeks and weeks
> of time, and thus big money,
> to achieve.
>
> and, as Jackie has pointed out, Some applications, due to the way they're
> designed, can simply be impossible to script.
>
> have you had a chance to load both of the audio editing apps you 
> mentioned,
> onto a computer with Jaws on it, and done any investigations yourself, as 
> to
> what can be read on the screen, say, with the jawsCursor?
>
> that would be a start.
>
> I guess you've discovered already by now, that sighted people
> use software a whole lot differently than the way we do as blind people. 
> ...
> anywayz, I could go on and on. a lot to convey.  welcome aboard the magic
> round about of life as a blind software user!
>
> Geoff c.
>
>
>
>
> From: "Vincenzo Rubano" <vincenzorubano@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 8:04 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Help for my first scripting experience...
>
>
>> Hello,
>> I am Vincenzo and I am 16. This is my first post in this list..
>> I am blind and I am italian (so sorry for my mystakes! :)...and If you
> want you can correct them, also in private messages)...
>> Well, I would like to ask you a question...
>> I have not experience in scripting applications for jaws...
>> But I would like to create jaws scripts for an audio editor....
>> Now, I have to choose from two options:
>> 1. Fruity Loops FL Studio (produced by image-line), but it seems very 
>> very
> hard to script....
>> 2. Synapse Orion Audio Platinum (produced by synapse, website:
>> www.synapse.com
>> )...
>> I would like to create jaws scripts for fruity loops, but I think I need
> help...
>> What do you think about my problem?
>> Can you tell me if it is possible to create jaws scripts for fruity 
>> loops?
> And for synapse orion?
>>                                     Vincenzo.
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