[jawsscripts] Re: Everything you wanted... manual
- From: "The dark Count" <darkcount1@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:19:57 -0700
Actually Geoff, there was hardly any structured documentation at the time =
other than the help
file which came with the scripting section of the general help files withi=
n jaws.
Ken's manual came about after people in the jfw list complained about the =
scant
documentation regarding such an usefull and powerfull tool.
Compared to the original help file as it was, Ken's almost class room like=
documentation was
the best tool back then.
It certainly helped yours truly get to where I am when needed.
I must confess that freedom scientific has updated somewhat their document=
ation.
But for what ever its worth, we are again lagging behind in many aspects o=
f the scripting
language mainly the more advansed tools such as object manipulation.
For the simple minded folks like myself, Ken Gould's approach in writing w=
as superior, and I
would not mind another tome addressing the latest developments where fs le=
aves off.
D C
Your unadulterated message follows:
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Everything you wanted... manual
Date: 1 Jul 2008
I reckon I would agree with this logic.
and I'm only bringing 20 cents worth of scripting experience to the table =
on
it! <grin.>
maybe rreading them back to back, oooooh sounds like fun,
in reverse order might be the go!
from my brief glancings through it, it appeared the ken gould manual writt=
en
at 3.7 days, was incredibly well structured and a lot more technically
detailed. but Jackie makes some very valid points here.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie McBride" <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:23 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Everything you wanted... manual
> I'm going to say 1 last thing about this particular manual, & then I'll
shut up.
>
> I 1st wanna say I thought it was a wonderful tool--for its time. The
> problem w/it now is that FS has changed its standard methods of
> scripting, & I think that beginners should start out learning these
> methods. It has not been particularly easy to unlearn some of the
> things which were perfectly acceptable in the early days of scripting,
> indeed, not only were they acceptable, but sometimes were the only
> methods to achieve various things, which have since been supplanted.
> An example of this is passing keystrokes. It used to be that the
> standard was to enclose the keystroke in curly braces, e.g. {f6}. Now,
> however, FS is asking that we use typeKey instead. This may seem
> picky, but because of increasing support for internationalization,
> among other things, FS has had to change the way scripts are written,
> & the beginner would be wise to learn these methods from the very
> start.
>
> The same can be said of saystring as opposed to sayMessage, the advent
> of the virtual viewer--so many other things that the earlier manuals,
> of necessity, could not touch on since they weren't in existence then.
> This is what I meant when I said it was outdated. Yes, some things
> remain the same, but there are enough changes that in some respects, I
> think it can be more detrimental than helpful.
>
> Just my $.02, probably worth what u paid for it.
>
> On 6/30/08, Geoff Chapman <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > tip: for those who may find sendspace site difficult to navigate/locat=
e
the
> > link, not being able to see the lovely red arrow that apparently dance=
s
> > about the right place to click which jaws doesn't tell us about, don't
know
> > why jaws can't be made to look for stuff like that, but however, on
these
> > sendspace links, use control+f jaws virtual find, to search for the
word,
> > Link:
> > with the colon after it.
> > that'll take you to the line located directly, above, the actual,
download
> > linkk, where you can then hit down arrow to take you to the line
> > where you should hit enter to download the file.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris & Doris" <chipmunks@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:00 AM
> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Everything you wanted... manual
> >
> >
> >> This is the html version of the old manual that i find easiest to
> >> navigate. Maybe someone can put a copy of this on a resource page
> >> online for people to have access to as this sendspace link will
> >> expire in a few days.
> >>
> >> hth
> >>
> >> Doris
> >>
> >> forwarded download link:
> >>
> >>
> >> You can use the following link to retrieve your file:
> >>
> >> http://www.sendspace.com/file/6ls96j
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 02:39 PM 6/30/2008 -0400, you wrote:
> >> >Jackie,
> >> >
> >> >I was asking Marlon to share the "everything you always wanted to
know
> >> >about jaws but didn't know who to ask" document with the list.
> >> >
> >> >Best,
> >> >Alice=3D20
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie McBrid=
e
> >> >Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:35 PM
> >> >To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Everything you wanted... manual
> >> >
> >> >I did share w/the list. What I said was that the manual of which u
speak
> >> >is pretty out of date & recommended that u go to:
> >> >www.fsdn.com
> >> >& download their basics of scripting manual.
> >> >
> >> >Pretty much what that consists of is the everything... manual +
updated
> >> >materials as well.
> >> >
> >> >On 6/30/08, Smith, Alice A. HQ DCO <Alice.A.Smith@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > > Please share with the list. I can't find it or a link to it in th=
e
=3D3D
> > =3D
> >> >
> >> > > archives either.
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D=3D20
> >> > > [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marlon=3D2=
0
> >> > > Brand=3D3DE3o =3D3D de Sousa
> >> > > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:43 PM
> >> > > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID
> >> > >
> >> > > While that manual is old it is not outdated, since the basics=3D2=
0
> >> > > explained =3D3D there continues the same. What the manual actuall=
y =3D
> >> >misses=3D20
> >> > > are advansed =3D3D features of JAWS which, by the way, could be =3D
> >> >understood
> >> >
> >> > > only vy folks =3D3D who already can understand what is going on i=
n
the
> >> >basics.
> >> > > I do respect your opinion, and I have taken a look at the basics =
of
=3D
> >> >=3D3D=3D20
> >> > > scripting. I still do think that the manual I pointed is better f=
or
=3D
> >> >=3D3D=3D20
> >> > > explaining newbies the basic stuff.
> >> > > I will try to send him the copy, plus if Jim Owmi is reading this=
I
=3D
> >> >=3D3D=3D20
> >> > > would ask him to do this since he was trying to make a chm of it.
> >> > > Anyways I will send it in a couple of hours, if it isn't already
> > sent=3D20
> >> > > by =3D3D that time.
> >> > > Marlon
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > 2008/6/30, Jackie McBride <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >> > >> Jerry, that manual, while good, has been out of date *long ago. =
Go
> >> >to:
> >> > >> www.fsdn.com
> >> > >> & download the basics of scripting manual from there.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On 6/30/08, Jerry White, MBA <MidwayVI@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > >>> OK, I give up! I cannot the manual mentioned below on the=3D20
> >> > >>> archive=3D3D20 list, =3D3D3D any ideas what to search for? I h=
ave =3D
> >> >tried:=3D20
> >> > >>> Scripting=3D3D20 Manual, Good =3D3D3D Scripting Manual, Always =
wanted
to
> > =3D
> >> >
> >> > >>> know about JAWS,=3D3D20 about jaws, and just manual. =3D3D3D I
either =3D
> >> >get=3D20
> >> > >>> over 900 matches, or a =3D3D
> >> > >
> >> > >>> few with no usable content. =3D3D3D20
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> If nothing else, could anyone who has this manual e-mail it to
me=3D20
> >> > >>> off =3D3D
> >> > >
> >> > >>> =3D3D3D list?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> All help is appreciated!
> >> > >>> Jerry
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
> >> > >>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > Marlon=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>> Brand=3D3D3DE3o =3D3D3D de Sousa
> >> > >>> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 7:01 AM
> >> > >>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Hello,
> >> > >>> We indeed consider helping out a important thing. Your
learning=3D3D20
> > =3D
> >> >
> >> > >>> however should be conducted by yourself and we are here to=3D20
> >> > >>> support=3D3D20 you during it. Please go look in this list archi=
ve
> > for=3D20
> >> > >>> jaws scripting =3D3D
> >> > >
> >> > >>> manuals. The best one is called something like "everything you=3D=
20
> >> > >>> always =3D3D
> >> > >
> >> > >>> wanted to know about jaws but didn't know who to ask". I know=3D=
20
> >> > >>> folks=3D3D20 here have a copy of it and this is one thing that
you=3D20
> >> > >>> really should=3D3D20 read in order to understand what goes on =3D
> >> >scripting.
> >> > >>> Marlon
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> 2008/6/30, Stan Bobbitt <SBOBBITT@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> > >>>> yes, that example code would be very helpful to me as well,=3D=
20
> >> > >>>> thank=3D3D20 you =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> ...
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Stan
> >> > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >>>> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >>>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 8:49 AM
> >> > >>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>> perhaps jamal, he may need some example code of just how he=3D=
20
> >> > >>>>> might=3D3D20 go about this tracking though?
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >>>>> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 10:33 PM
> >> > >>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> Then, can't your code keep track of how many ComboBoxes it
has=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> found,
> >> > >>>>>> and consider the right one to be that number?
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> Jamal
> >> > >>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008, Jitendra
> >> > >>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> > Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:52:12 +0530
> >> > >>>>>> > From: Jitendra <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > >>>>>> > Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID
> >> > >>>>>> >
> >> > >>>>>> >
> >> > >>>>>> > yes, always third I think, as it is printed by winDig at
the=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > end =3D3D
> >> > >
> >> > >>>>>> > =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> after
> >> > >>>>> th=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> e
> >> > >>>>>> > other 2, (useless).
> >> > >>>>>> > Jamal Mazrui wrote: Isn't the ComboBox of interest always
in=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > the =3D3D
> >> > >
> >> > >>>>>> > =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> same
> >> > >>>>>> > sequential order relative to the others, e.g., the second
=3D3D3D
> >> > >>> ComboBox?
> >> > >>>>> Jamal=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> On
> >> > >>>>>> > Sat, 28 Jun 2008, Jitendra wrote: Date: Sat, 28 Jun
2008=3D3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > 12:34:37
> >> > >>> +0530
> >> > >>>>>> > From:Jitendra <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>[1] Reply-To:
> >> > >>>>>> > jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[2] To:
jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[3] =3D
> >> >=3D3D
> >> > > =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> Subject:
> >> > >>>>>> > [jawsscripts] Re: software with unfixed ctrl ID Thank you=3D=
20
> >> > >>>>>> > jacki, =3D3D
> >> > >
> >> > >>>>>> > I
> >> > >>> only
> >> > >>>>> w=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> ant
> >> > >>>>>> > to set my focus, to that combo box, and the statisstics I
> > gave=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > =3D3D
> >> > > =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> does
> >> > >>> not
> >> > >>>>>> > change, Like: [1.10.1.1.1.5=3D3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > WindowsForms10.COMBOBOX.app.0.378734a]
> >> > >>>>> width,
> >> > >>>>>> > hite and any other thing. so, now what. this window has
no=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > name=3D3D20 or
> >> > >>>>> prompt=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> , I
> >> > >>>>>> > can find it by the class name, but the app has 3 combo=3D2=
0
> >> > >>>>>> > boxes.=3D3D20 and =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> for
> >> > >>>>> sur=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> e,
> >> > >>>>>> > they all have their own properties like this one. the
> > control=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > id =3D3D
> >> > >
> >> > >>>>>> > changes
> >> > >>>>> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> on
> >> > >>>>>> > every app start. Thank, hope this info is enough, Glad to=3D=
20
> >> > >>>>>> > tell=3D3D20 if =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> you
> >> > >>>>> wan=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> t.
> >> > >>>>>> > Jackie McBride wrote: Jitendra: U know what? Perhaps it'd
be=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > a=3D3D20 lot
> >> > >>>>> better=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> > ifyou'd tell us precisely what you're trying to do here.
This =3D
> >> >=3D3D
> >> > > =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> looks
> >> > >>>>>> > like
> >> > >>>>> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> a
> >> > >>>>>> > .netapp, from the type of window u gave in your last
post.=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > If=3D3D20 what
> >> > >>>>> you're
> >> > >>>>>> > trying to do is find it, then that could be as simple a=3D=
20
> >> > >>>>>> > matter=3D3D20 as
> >> > >>> doing
> >> > >>>>> a
> >> > >>>>>> > findWindow, using the appMainWindow as your starting point=
,
> > or=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > a =3D3D
> >> > >
> >> > >>>>>> > clickObjectByName, if in fact it has 1. Doug Lee's bx=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > toolbox=3D3D20 can =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> be
> >> > >>>>> used=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> > toobtain lots &lots &lots &*lots! of info regarding just
about
> >> > >>> anything
> >> > >>>>> u
> >> > >>>>>> > wannaknow about an app, its window hierarchy, whatever. On=
=3D
> >> >=3D3D3D
> >> > >>> 6/27/08,
> >> > >>>>> Jiten=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> > dra <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>[4][1] wrote: Hello, and=3D=
20
> >> > >>>>>> > thank=3D3D20 you =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> all,
> >> > >>>>> an=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> d
> >> > >>>>>> > Jamal sir, this is the info taken from the winDig output
> > file,=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > =3D3D
> >> > > =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> now,
> >> > >>> How
> >> > >>>>>> > should =3D3D3D3D3D I use this number and with which
functions?=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > Thank =3D3D
> >> > > =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> you. or
> >> > >>> it
> >> > >>>>> i=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> s
> >> > >>>>>> > possible to usethese x or y info, or hite or width info
to=3D3D20
> > =3D
> >> >
> >> > >>>>>> > locate =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> that
> >> > >>>>> co=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> mbo
> >> > >>>>>> > box? and what if this number changes in next winDig file i=
f
I =3D
> >> >=3D3D
> >> > > =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> creat.
> >> > >>>>>> > [1.10.1.1.1.5 WindowsForms10.COMBOBOX.app.0.378734a]
> >> > >>> alias=3D3D3D3D3D3DComboBox
> >> > >>>>>> > id=3D3D3D3D3D3D525072 selec=3D3D3D3D3D ted=3D3D3D3D3D3D1 =3D
> >> >x=3D3D3D3D3D3D7% =3D3D
> >> > > y=3D3D3D3D3D3D27% =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> width=3D3D3D3D3D3D11%
> >> > >>>>> height=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> =3D3D3D3D3D3D2% Jamal
> >> > >>>>>> > Mazrui wrote: Yes, WinDig
> >> > >>>>> http://EmpowermentZone.com/wdsetup.exe[5][2][1]
> >> > >>>>>> > canhelp you understand the hierarchy of controls in
an=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > application
> >> > >>>>> window=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> =3D3D3D3D2E
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> >> >this,
> >> >
> >> > >>>>>> > =3D3D
> >> > > =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> e.g., the
> >> > >>>>> con=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> trol
> >> > >>>>>> > at the level 1.2.3 means th=3D3D3D3D3D e third control
> > contained=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > in=3D3D20 the =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> second
> >> > >>>>> co=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> ntrol
> >> > >>>>>> > of the top-level window tha=3D3D3D3D3D t was analyzed. Jam=
al
> > On=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > Fri, =3D3D
> >> > >
> >> > >>>>>> > 27 =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> Jun
> >> > >>>>> 2008,
> >> > >>>>>> > Jitendra wrote: Date: Fri, 27 Ju=3D3D3D3D3D n 2008 17:49:4=
1
+0530
> > =3D
> >> >=3D3D
> >> > > From:
> >> > >>>>>> > Jitendra
> >> > >>>>>> > <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>[6][3][2] Reply-To:
> >> > >>>>>> > jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[7][4][3] To:
> >> > >>>>>> > jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[8][5][4]Subject: [jawsscripts]
Re:=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> software
> >> > >>>>> wit=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> h
> >> > >>>>>> > unfixedctrl ID I don't know about the hierarchy, and have=3D=
20
> >> > >>>>>> > never=3D3D20 =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> used
> >> > >>>>> perh=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> > aps in my scripts,so, where should I start from? does win
dig =3D
> >> >=3D3D
> >> > > =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> helps me
> >> > >>>>> ou=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> t
> >> > >>>>>> > init?and how. and if it changes, then what should I do.
Thank =3D
> >> >=3D3D
> >> > > you.
> >> > >>>>> Marlon
> >> > >>>>>> > Brandão de Sousa wrote: Does the hierarchy change? =
If
it
> >> > >>> doesn't
> >> > >>>>> t=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> =3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> > hen you will need to start from the app main window and
make=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > all
> >> > >>> theway
> >> > >>>>> t=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> o
> >> > >>>>>> > fo=3D3D3D3D3D cus or read the desired window. If the hiera=
rchy
=3D
> >> >does
> >> >
> >> > >>>>>> > =3D3D
> >> > > =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> change
> >> > >>>>> thenit=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> is a
> >> > >>>>>> > math=3D3D3D3D3D er of tryals and errors untill you find a
static
> >> > >>>>> relationshipbetw=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> een
> >> > >>>>>> > any components upon you can base your criteria to =3D
> >> >fin=3D3D3D3D3D3D=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > d =3D3D
> >> > > a=3D3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> given
> >> > >>>>> wind=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> ow.
> >> > >>>>>> > Ma=3D3D3D3D3D rlon 2008/6/27, Jitendra
> >> > >>> <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>[9][6][5][1]:
> >> > >>>>> H=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> ello
> >> > >>>>>> > friends, =3D3D3D3D3D if there is a software that changes
its=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > control =3D3D
> >> > >
> >> > >>>>>> > id =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> like
> >> > >>>>> hand=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> les,
> >> > >>>>>> > how would y=3D3D3D3D3D ou get text or any info out of it? =
and
if
> > =3D
> >> >=3D3D
> >> > > there=3D3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> are
> >> > >>>>> n=3D3D3D3D3D3D=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> o
> >> > >>>>>> > standard window classes, and it is designed like NLite
and=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > has=3D3D20 win
> >> > >>>>> classe=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> =3D3D3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> > s: WindowsForms10.Window.8.app.0.378734a is it made in jav=
a?
or
> >> > >>>>> something
> >> > >>>>>> > co=3D3D3D3D3D=3D3D3D3D3D3D uld be done with it? that somet=
ime =3D
> >> >presents=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > a =3D3D
> >> > >
> >> > >>>>>> > list =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> view
> >> > >>>>>> > using
> >> > >>>>> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> same
> >> > >>>>>> > winclass,andsometime some static text, and re-classing als=
o
=3D
> >> >=3D3D3D
> >> > >>> doesn't
> >> > >>>>> work,
> >> > >>>>>> > wh=3D3D3D3D3Dat to =3D3D3D3D3D3D do then? virtualising wor=
ks,
but =3D
> >> >if it
> >> >
> >> > >>>>>> > =3D3D
> >> > > is a=3D3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> list, or
> >> > >>>>> som=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> e read
> >> > >>>>>> > onl=3D3D3D3D3D y typebox=3D3D3D3D3D3D , but jaws does not
identifys
> > =3D
> >> >it=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > =3D3D
> >> > > that=3D3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> way, and
> >> > >>> we
> >> > >>>>> n=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> eed to
> >> > >>>>>> > scro=3D3D3D3D3D l downor up, then, in user buffer is it
possible?
> > =3D
> >> >=3D3D
> >> > > and=3D3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > if =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> there
> >> > >>>>> ar=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> e
> >> > >>>>>> > withsam=3D3D3D3D3D e win class=3D3D3D3D3D3D , there some i=
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to =3D
> >> >be=3D3D20
> >> >
> >> > >>>>>> > clicked, =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> can we
> >> > >>>>> make=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> some
> >> > >>>>>> > virtual p=3D3D3D3D3D lace to select =3D3D3D3D3D3D one item=
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> > =3D
> >> >=3D3D
> >> > > press =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> enter, and
> >> > >>>>>> > the
> >> > >>>>> =3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> user is
> >> > >>>>>> > then switche=3D3D3D3D3D d to the valid tab=3D3D3D3D3D3D ? =
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> >> >you. =3D3D
> >> > > Jitendra.
> >> > >>>>> __________=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> View
> >> > >>>>>> > the list's inform=3D3D3D3D3D ation and change yo=3D3D3D3D3=
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> >> >=3D3D
> >> > > settings at
> >> > >>>>>> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[10][7][6][2]---=3D=
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> >> > >>>>>> > Links=3D3D20 =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> --- 1
> >> > >>>>>> > mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx[11][8][7] 2=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[12][9][8] =3D3D3=
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> >> > >>> __________=3D3D3D3D3D3DA0
> >> > >>>>> Vie=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> w the
> >> > >>>>>> > list'sinformation and change your settings at=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[13][10][9]=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > __________=3D3D20 =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> View
> >> > >>>>>> > the
> >> > >>>>>> > list=3D3D3D3D3D 's information and change your settings
> > at=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[14][11][10] ---=3D=
20
> >> > >>>>>> > Links=3D3D20 =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> --- 1
> >> > >>>>>> > http://EmpowermentZone.com/wdsetup.exe[15][12] 2
> >> > >>>>>> > mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx[16][13]3
> >> > >>>>>> > mailto:jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[17][14=3D3D3D3D3D ] 4=3D3=
D20=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > mailto:jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[18][15] 5=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx[19][1=3D3D3D3D3D 6]=3D3D2=
0=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > 6//www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[17] 7=3D3D20=3D=
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> >> > >>>>>> > mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx[20][18] 8=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[21][19] 9=3D3D20=
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> >> > >>>>>> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[22][20] 10=3D3D2=
0=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[23][21] =3D
> >> >__________=3D3D20
> >> >
> >> > >>>>>> > View =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> the
> >> > >>>>> lis=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> t's
> >> > >>>>>> > information and change your settings at=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[24][22] ---
Links=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > ---=3D3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > 1 mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx[25] 2
> >> > >>>>>> > http://EmpowermentZone.com/wdsetup.exe[26]3
> >> > >>>>>> > mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx[274
> >> > >>>>> mailto:jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[28]=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> 5
> >> > >>>>>> > mailto:jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[29] 6
> >> > >>>>> mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx[3=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> 0]
> >> > >>>>>> > 7//www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[31] 8=3D3D20=3D=
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> >> > >>>>>> > mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx[32] 9=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[33] 10=3D3D20=3D=
20
> >> > >>>>>> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[34] 11=3D3D20=3D=
20
> >> > >>>>>> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[35] 12=3D3D20=3D=
20
> >> > >>>>>> > http://EmpowermentZone.com/wdsetup.exe[36] 13=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx[37] 14
> >> > >>>>> mailto:jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> 38]
> >> > >>>>>> > 15 mailto:jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[39] 16
> >> > >>>>>> > mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx[40]17
> >> > >>>>>> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[41] 18=3D3D20=3D=
20
> >> > >>>>>> > mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx[42] 19=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[43] 20=3D3D20=3D=
20
> >> > >>>>>> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[44] 21=3D3D20=3D=
20
> >> > >>>>>> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[45] 22=3D3D20=3D=
20
> >> > >>>>>> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[46] =3D3D
> >> > > __________=3D3D3D3D3DA0=3D3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > =3D3D3D
> >> > >>> View the
> >> > >>>>> li=3D3D3D3D
> >> > >>>>>> st's
> >> > >>>>>> > information and change your settings at=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[47] __________ =3D=
20
> >> > >>>>>> > View=3D3D20 the
> >> > >>>>> list's
> >> > >>>>>> > information and change your settings at=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts[48]
> >> > >>>>>> >
> >> > >>>>>> >
> >> > >>>>>> > --- Links ---
> >> > >>>>>> > 1 mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 2 mailto:jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 3 mailto:jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 4 mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 5 http://EmpowermentZone.com/wdsetup.exe
> >> > >>>>>> > 6 mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 7 mailto:jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 8 mailto:jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 9 mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 10 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>>>> > 11 mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 12 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>>>> > 13 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>>>> > 14 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>>>> > 15 http://EmpowermentZone.com/wdsetup.exe
> >> > >>>>>> > 16 mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 17 mailto:jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 18 mailto:jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 19 mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 20 mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 21 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>>>> > 22 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>>>> > 23 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>>>> > 24 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>>>> > 25 mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 26 http://EmpowermentZone.com/wdsetup.exe
> >> > >>>>>> > 27 mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 28 mailto:jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 29 mailto:jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 30 mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 31 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>>>> > 32 mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 33 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>>>> > 34 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>>>> > 35 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>>>> > 36 http://EmpowermentZone.com/wdsetup.exe
> >> > >>>>>> > 37 mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 38 mailto:jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 39 mailto:jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 40 mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 41 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>>>> > 42 mailto:jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx
> >> > >>>>>> > 43 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>>>> > 44 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>>>> > 45 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>>>> > 46 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>>>> > 47 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>>>> > 48 //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>>>> > __________=3D3D3D3DA0
> >> > >>>>>> > View the list's information and change your settings
at=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>>>> >
> >> > >>>>>> __________
> >> > >>>>>> View the list's information and change your settings
at=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> __________
> >> > >>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at=3D3D2=
0=3D20
> >> > >>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> __________
> >> > >>>> View the list's information and change your settings at=3D3D20=
=3D20
> >> > >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> --=3D3D3D20
> >> > >>> When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows," people=3D=
20
> >> > >>> just=3D3D20 stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with
the=3D20
> >> > >>> system, for=3D3D20 free."
> >> > >>> Linus Torvalds
> >> > >>> __________=3D3D3DA0
> >> > >>> View the list's information and change your settings
> > at=3D3D3D20=3D3D20=3D20
> >> > >>> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> __________
> >> > >>> View the list's information and change your settings at=3D3D20=3D=
20
> >> > >>> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> Change the world--1 deed at a time
> >> > >> Jackie McBride
> >> > >> Check out my homepage at:
> >> > >> www.abletec.serverheaven.net
> >> > >> & please join my fight against breast cancer=3D3D20 =3D3D
> >> > > =3D
> >>
>
>><http://teamacs.acsevents.org/site/TR?px=3D3D3D1790196&pg=3D3D3Dpersonal=
&fr_i=3D
> >> >d> =3D3D3D=3D3D
> >> > > 348
> >> > >> 9>
> >> > >> __________
> >> > >> View the list's information and change your settings at=3D3D20=3D=
20
> >> > >> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows," people
just=3D20
> >> > > stare =3D3D at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the sys=
tem,
=3D
> >> >for
> >> >free."
> >> > > Linus Torvalds
> >> > > __________
> >> > > View the list's information and change your settings at =3D3D=3D2=
0
> >> > > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >
> >> > > __________
> >> > > View the list's information and change your settings at=3D20
> >> > > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Change the world--1 deed at a time
> >> >Jackie McBride
> >> >Check out my homepage at:
> >> >www.abletec.serverheaven.net
> >> >& please join my fight against breast cancer
> >>
>
>><http://teamacs.acsevents.org/site/TR?px=3D3D1790196&pg=3D3Dpersonal&fr_=
id=3D3D=3D
> >> >3489>
> >> >__________
> >> >View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> >//www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> >
> >> >__________
> >> >View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> >//www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Pray, pray, pray!" - Pray without ceasing. (1 Th 5:17)
> >>
> >> __________
> >> View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >>
> >
> > __________
> > View the list's information and change your settings at
> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Change the world--1 deed at a time
> Jackie McBride
> Check out my homepage at:
> www.abletec.serverheaven.net
> & please join my fight against breast cancer
> <http://teamacs.acsevents.org/site/TR?px=3D1790196&pg=3Dpersonal&fr_id=3D=
3489>
> __________
> View the list's information and change your settings at
> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>
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