[jawsscripts] Re: Are there jaws scripts for spy ware blaster?
- From: Chris & Doris <chipmunks@xxxxxxx>
- To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 03:20:47 -0400
Spywware Blaster is freeware and i have never gone thru the tutorial
but have been using it successfully for many years. Miss Debbie's
scripts made things easier but the program is usable with just the
jaws cursor as well. Never forget that Widnow Eyes users until this
latest version of WE never had the blessing of scripts and yet have
been using applications just as successfully as jaws users.
What I do not know is how well spyware blaster can be used with a
screenreader that does not have a mouse emulation cursor for screen
review and navigation as nvda does.
I have not yet found a program that can be substituted for Spyware
Blaster for it's blacklists of malicious webpages. Spyware blaster
will not let me open some webpages that contain malware and thus
protects my computer.
For a jaws user, though, spyware blaster is defintely usable without
scripts, especially since downloading of definition updates and
enabling all protection for the browser(s) does not need to be done
more than once a week maybe and takes less than five minutes.
hth
Doris
At 05:04 PM 5/3/2009 +1000, you wrote:
>Wow. ok, thanks very much
>Chris and Dorris for setting us straight as to this.
>I must confess That outcome never even occurred to me to contemplate!
>
>So David, it appears from the lack of responses you've gotten to date on
>this,
>that there may be no other scripts availabel for this program as yet.
>
>How important is it do you believe, for you to have access to this
>particular program?
>Have you tried making extensive use of the jaws Cursor to drive the program
>and click on things which make it useable?
>
>As you probably know, scripting an application to be really decently vip
>friendly, is no easy or small task, and I can't myself see how it will be
>possible if you've never yet been a scripter before, to start off expecting
>that you'll be able to learn how to get an entire aplication's interface, to
>the stage that you'll be able to use it as if it were already scripted out
>of the box? Does that make sense?
>specially if we're only like talking about the
>tutorial stage of the program at this point.
>I'm wondering if there might not be an easier application which *may* speak
>out of the box more intuitively, than this? and perhaps if you've paid for
>this and it's not accessible, and you really feel you can't utilize it
>effectively enough to warrant the money you've paid for it, that you could
>approach the developers and upon this special and to them unusual situation,
>retreave your purchase price from them on it, and maybe try other
>alternatives?
>
>Or are you very set on wanting to try and gain access to this one. if so,
>might I recommend you might wanna try and attack driving it/seeing if you
>can get it accessible, using a more front end menu driven type tool, like
>hotSpot clicker?
>
>A sighted person would obviously be needed to help yo u identify the
>clickable areas of the screen to accomplish various things, but, once you
>install hsc, then connect it to the spyware blaster application, and you've
>learned the ins and outs/caveats of defining hotspots, and providing them
>with useful labels and keystrokes for yourself, and you grab a sighted
>person for a couple hours who might be willing to help you learn it, I might
>suggest you might achieve some passable results using this method?
>
>It's just that once you've mastered a couple of, "how To's," with
>hotSpotClicker, my own view is that it's far in a wayz an easier approach to
>take to gaining some level of accessibility to programs, than the scripting
>solution, if you've never ever done any scripting before? Because it
>approaches the solution using many menu/wizard choices, rather than
>expecting you to know raw code, as you pretty much have to do when
>scripting? and this is no easy feat!
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>geoff c.
>
>
>From: "Chris & Doris" <chipmunks@xxxxxxx>
>To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 11:04 AM
>Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Are there jaws scripts for spy ware blaster?
>
>
> > These scripts, if I remember correctly, were done by Miss Debbie
> > Scales. I am sure she would be intersted in helping because she had a
> > real servent's heart. However, we cannot ask her because she moved on
> > to a different plane of existence a few years ago.
> >
> > Someone plese correct me if I am wrong on the authorship of the
> > scripts. The old scripts can still be found in the program section up on
> >
> > http://www.jfwlite.com/programs.html
> >
> > hth
> >
> > Doris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 09:51 AM 5/1/2009 +1000, you wrote:
> > >Hi Chris & Doris and david.
> > >
> > >right. ok, well please pardon my ignorance upon that one.
> > >and Thanks for setting us straight about the different purposes for the
>two
> > >types of spyware applications.
> > >
> > >Since you also seem to be aware of the existence of Scripts for previous
> > >versions which david has referred to before if memory serves,
> > >Are you perhaps aware of the identity of the author's of those scripts,
>with
> > >the view to asking them personally if they are interested in any ongoing
> > >development for them? although I suppose if they had been, then scripts
> > >supporting the new versions of spyware blaster would've been readily
> > >available from wherever those previous ones had been gotten.
> > >Since you are obvoiusly users of this program, and have managed to drive
>the
> > >program successfuly using the jaws Cursor, perhaps you and david could
> > >communicate personally
> > >as regards this, since there seems to be significant enough difficulties
> > >there that I don't believe this is the first time David has sought
> > >assistance with operation of this program?
> > >
> > >It just seems to me david, that if all this is not forthcoming, it might
>be
> > >worth for you, either:
> > >A. tracking down the developers of spyware blaster itself, and finding
>out
> > >how aware they are of accessibility issues, and seeking to highlight for
> > >them, some of the issues your facing as a blind user, and in doing so,
> > >seeking to gage their interest in helping make their program more
>accessible
> > >from the, "back end," where of course the most joy/benefit would be
>gained,
> > >for them as well as for wider community,
> > >if their interest/motivation as regards
> > >increasing accessibility to their software for the most people, was
>excited.
> > >Rather than tracking down a script based solution, which of course is
> > >continually going to break every time a new version of the software is
> > >released, especially if the developers have no idea as yet, about
> > >accessibility issues or concerns.
> > >
> > >B. find another program which does a similar job, (there'd have to be
>stacks
> > >I'd have thought,) that might be, "out of the box," more
>accessible/drivable
> > >for you, than this program obviously is?
> > >have you as yet sought to follow either of these A or B tracks, as
>outlined
> > >above?
> > >
> > >
> > >geoff c.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:34 PM
> > >Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Are there jaws scripts for spy ware blaster?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Spyware Blaster and Superantispyware are two different programs with
> > > > different functionality.
> > > >
> > > > Superantispyware detects and removes spyware while spyware blaster
> > > > prevents installation of a lot of spyware in the first place by using
> > > > a sort of blacklist to prevent spyware from getting into the computer
> > > > in the first place.
> > > >
> > > > There used to be jaws scripts for it but the interface of the program
> > > > has changed so that the scripts no longer work. It is possible to use
> > > > the program by using the jaws cursor, hthough. I am not sure if this
> > > > is scriptable.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Doris
> > > >
> > > > At 10:26 PM 4/30/2009 +1000, you wrote:
> > > > >David. you always use the jawsCursor, if you want to simulate a
>mousClick
> > >on
> > > > >anything. the jaws Cursor is the same as the mouse. so when your
> > >navigating
> > > > >with the jaws cursor, you are moving the mouse around the screen.
> > > > >
> > > > >But this will very often not identify controls as buttons etc, if the
>tab
> > > > >key doesn't do so. So you still need to know where this button is,
>or
> > >have
> > > > >some way of knowing what potentially numbered graphic, which it might
> > > > >identify itself as, is the next button etc.
> > > > >
> > > > >Have you thought of trying superantiSpyware? it's a very accessible
> > >program
> > > > >out of the box it seems to me.
> > > > >
> > > > >---
> > > > >From: "david ingram" <dingram269@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:22 PM
> > > > >Subject: [jawsscripts] Are there jaws scripts for spy ware blaster?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi list members, i'd like to know if there are jaws scripts for
>spy
> > >ware
> > > > >blaster? If so, where can i get them from?
> > > > > > The reason why i ask this question is because i'm having a problem
> > >with
> > > > >going through the tutorial when i need to choose the item that says
> > >manual
> > > > >updating, But i'm not sure if this is a dialog or a button. There is
> > >also a
> > > > >next button, but i'm not sure what cursor that i need to use to
>semulate
> > >a
> > > > >mouse click for that button whether it should be the jaws cursor, pc
> > >cursor,
> > > > >or the invisible cursor. I would appreciate any information that any
>one
> > > > >might have about this, thank you.
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