Hi Tiddy and list, In fact, PDF is an open format, available for anyone to use. Adobe just happens to be the major company which employs the format. There are a number of PDF readers out there but I don't know of one which is as accessible as Adobe's. This may sound strange in view of the difficulties which so many of us face when trying to read these documents but the root cause lies with the original creator of the document rather than the reader. Adobe acrobat incorporates a set of tags which are similar but not the same as HTML tags and make the experience of reading a PDF document with screen readers similar to that of a web page. The trouble is that most creators of PDF documents don't know of the tags or don't understand what they do or how useful they could be. One blind programmer has written a couple of utilities which attempts to convert PDF documents in to text files but the success or otherwise of the conversion depends upon how the document has been organised. Regards, Phil Medway E-mail: philmedway@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Tel: 01869 347639 Mobile: 07980 519990 Skype: philmedway ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tiddy Ogg" <oggy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 7:47 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: pdf files As PDF is Adobe's own product, I doubt there's any alternative. -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Husna Begum Sent: 02 November 2008 20:02 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] pdf files Hi, is adobe acrobat reader the best tool to look at pdf files or is there a better, more accessible program available for reading pdf files? if there is a better program available than adobe, please can you let me know where i can get it from. thanks, Husna ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq