RE: [jaws-uk] Re: Problem with latest build 1447

  • From: "Tiddy Ogg" <oggy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:06:53 +0100

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PS, just tried it with the shift key as well. all it does is cycle the
opposite way round.
So unless it's a Windows 7 thing, that's a red herring.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Robin Clayden
Sent: 01 June 2010 08:37
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Problem with latest build 1447
 
Hi,
 
That command certainly does the job, but I've been toggling around all
the active programmes on the task bar for years using simply alt tab..
Please somebody tell me I'm not imagining things here?
 
Cheers, Robin
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Amro Bilal
Sent: 01 June 2010 00:54
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Problem with latest build 1447
 
Isn't it rather Alt Shift Tab to switch between multiple opened windows?
Alt Tab will only alternate focus between the current opened window and
the last window that was in focus. This is a Windows keystroke and not a
Jaws one.
 
Cheers,
Amro
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Tom Reid <mailto:tom.reid2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 9:08 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Problem with latest build 1447
 
Hi Robin,
 
Have definitely experienced your probs with the alt-tab, but, have had
it for some time where several windows are open. Have had to minimise
and sometimes close windows to hit what I wanted.
 
Thought it was me.
 
Tom
 
 
 

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From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Robin Clayden
Sent: 31 May 2010 21:04
To: Jaws-UK List
Subject: [jaws-uk] Problem with latest build 1447
Hi,
 
I thought this was just at work but now downloaded and installed the
latest build, 11.0.1447 and have a couple of problems.
 
1: In certtain table views I visit regularly, I used to run down the
rows with arrow keys without missing a piece of text. Now, after each
arrow down in some areas, I get jaws saying "blank" before it will read
the next item in the view. Anyone who goes to the Allinplay games site
will see this happening in any of the game pages.
 
2: If I have several items on the task bar, the alt tab keystroke is
malfunctioning. For example, I was on the web, had another webpage item
on the task bar and my outlook express inbox when I heard the sound of
an e mail coming in.
 
Holding down the alt key and tapping the tab key, I just couldn't get to
my inbox, it simply alternated between the webpage and the other item.
One of the webpages had edit fields on it and I kept getting shuffled
around the edit fields with this keystroke... I had to minimise
everything and tab round to the task bar to get to my inbox....
 
Anyone else had this? A conflict somewhere perhaps?
 
Hmm, can I roll back to my previous build?
 
IE7, XP Pro, Dell Optiplex machine
 
Regards, Robin


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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>PS, just tried it with the shift =
key as well&#8230;
all it does is cycle the opposite way =
round.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So unless it&#8217;s a Windows 7 =
thing, that&#8217;s
a red herring.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] <b><span =
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Behalf Of </span></b>Robin Clayden<br>
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Month=3D"6" Day=3D"1" Year=3D"2010"><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [jaws-uk] Re: =
Problem
with latest build 1447</span></font></p>

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color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>That
command certainly does the job, but I&#8217;ve been toggling around all =
the
active programmes on the task bar for years using simply alt tab&#8230;. =
Please
somebody tell me I&#8217;m not imagining things =
here?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Robin<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Behalf Of </span></b>Amro Bilal<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 01 June 2010 =
00:54<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [jaws-uk] Re: =
Problem
with latest build 1447<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Isn't it rather Alt Shift =
Tab to
switch between multiple opened windows? Alt Tab will only alternate =
focus
between the current opened window and the last window that was in focus. =
This
is a Windows keystroke and not a Jaws one.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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pan></font></b><font
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> [jaws-uk]
Re: Problem with latest build 1447<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Hi
Robin,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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color=3Dblue
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Have
definitely experienced your probs with the alt-tab, but, have had it for =
some
time where several windows are open. Have had to minimise and sometimes =
close
windows to hit what I wanted.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thought
it was me.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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color=3Dblue
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Tom</span></font>=
<o:p></o:p></p>

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12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href=3D"mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=
</a>
[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Robin Clayden<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 31 May 2010 =
21:04<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Jaws-UK List<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [jaws-uk] =
Problem with
latest build 1447</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi,</span></font><o:p></o:p>=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I thought this was just at =
work but
now downloaded and installed the latest build, 11.0.1447 and have a =
couple of
problems.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>1: In certtain table views =
I visit
regularly, I used to run down the rows with arrow keys without missing a =
piece
of text. Now, after each arrow down in some areas, I get jaws saying
&quot;blank&quot; before it will read the next item in the view. Anyone =
who
goes to the Allinplay games site will see this happening in any of the =
game
pages.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>2: If I have several items =
on the
task bar, the alt tab keystroke is malfunctioning. For example, I was on =
the
web, had another webpage item on the task bar and my outlook express =
inbox when
I heard the sound of an e mail coming in.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Holding down the alt key =
and tapping
the tab key, I just couldn't get to my inbox, it simply alternated =
between the
webpage and the other item. One of the webpages had edit fields on it =
and I
kept getting shuffled around the edit fields with this keystroke... I =
had to
minimise everything and tab round to the task bar to get to my =
inbox....</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Anyone else had this? A =
conflict
somewhere perhaps?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hmm, can I roll back to my =
previous
build?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>IE7, XP Pro, Dell Optiplex =
machine</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Regards, =
Robin</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><br>
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signature
database 5160 (20100531) __________<br>
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The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.<br>
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href=3D"http://www.eset.com";>http://www.eset.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></f=
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