LOL! I've been a Jaws user for ten years and I never knew that the zero button doubles as the Jaws key!! With this revelation the Jaws desktop layout makes sense! Well, sort off still! LOL! Yvonne, switch to laptop layout then you can use the caps lock button as the Jaws key as well. I know I said this before, but I really still don't know why Jaws has a desktop layout. With the laptop layout you return all the functionality of the desktop layout, but in addition, you can use the caps lock as the Jaws key. Using caps lock and the insert keys as the Jaws key makes using the keyboard much easier. Think of the Jaws key and f7 or f11... at least that what I think! Best, Amro ----- Original Message ----- From: yvonne oliver To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 2:13 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] jaws key change hi i would like to change the jaws key to something else as i use the numeric keypad frequently. i keep forgetting to change from num loc on and off. can someone tell me how to change the key? and of course can it be reversed back to the zero on the numeric keypad if i feel this was not such a good idea to change it. 1 last question is there any keys i can't use? i would like to use the caps lock key as this is rarely used for anything thank you Yvonne ----- Original Message ----- From: john coley To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:10 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] answer to problem with blacktoe Hi everybody, re the recent post about inability to access the ice grips page on the blacktoe website. I assume the person is using IE8. If you add the site to compatibility view in the tools menu it works fine. John.