[jaws-uk] Re: gmail and Outlook Express
- From: "Moti Azrad Musician & Piano-Tuner" <motiaz@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 12:55:31 +0200
Hi Tristram,
Again, thank you for your quick respond.
About your second question, when I send from another account to my gmail
account in Outlook express, yes, it works and I can see my this email but I can
not see it only if I send from gmail to gmail account in OE.
About your first question, media, is a very small file it's about 520KB about,
not more.
I sent and got via gmail 11.3 MB OF mp3 music file but this media file, I can
not send or receive.
A lot of thanks again and I'll be glad to hear more notes, if you have.
Thanks,
Moti Azrad
Musician & Piano-Tuner
motia@xxxxxxx
motiaz@xxxxxxxxx
Israel
----- Original Message -----
From: Tristram Llewellyn
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 11:44 AM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: gmail and Outlook Express
The Gmail service is still undergoing testing/development work. I think the
shortcut keys are a nod in the directin of accessibility but hopefully this
might extend to an interface that is even more screen reader friendly.
I'm afraid I don't know much sending media files, how large are the one's
you are sending. POP3 is not great for large files, there are better ways of
doing this including MSN or Skype for example if they are very large (5mb
and over). I realise in download terms that's nothing but on POP3 the
overhead means that there is usually a definite limit on attachments which
may be set by Gmail..
Lastly I would suggest you send a message from another account to your Gmail
account, do you recieve anything then from Gmail to Outlook Express?
Regards.
Tristram Llewellyn
Sight and Sound Technology
Technical Support
www.sightandsound.co.uk
----- Original Message -----
From: "Moti Azrad Musician & Piano-Tuner" <motiaz@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 11:13 AM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: gmail and Outlook Express
Hi Tristram,
You have sent a very important and productive email, as a reply to my
questions, problems or thoughts about gmail and Outlook express.
First, I went to view -> current view -. and read all messages is checked.
I went to insert+v for verbosity and toggle of the navigation quick key.
Do you suggest to permanently change it because as I do know, insert+v will
change it only temporarily, is that right?
Second, I can send to someone else attachment files but not a kind of system
files as, media under windows library that is found in my c; drive.
Do you know about that?
Third, thank you very much for your shortcuts. I must read and learn them
more and try to work with them.
Again, a lot of your this reply, tristram.
I do appreciate your professional suggestments.
Thanks and I'll be glad to get more info about this subject.
It is sure a Jaws issue because, a sight man can navigate in the
gmail.Google.com website freely and we, the blind Jaws users, can not.
Again, a lot of thanks
Moti Azrad
Musician & Piano-Tuner
motia@xxxxxxx
motiaz@xxxxxxxxx
Israel
----- Original Message -----
From: Tristram Llewellyn
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 10:28 AM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: gmail and Outlook Express
This is a little off topic for this list, however I expect more than one
member of Jaws UK may be interested. I think you may want to first have a
look in the "view" menu under "current view" and make sure "show all
messages" is checked, if not navigate to it and press enter on it.
Secondly if you are having problems with downloading messages there ought
to
be an error message, the incoming server is pop.gmail.com and the outgoing
server is smtp.gmail.com.
Lastly the thing that may be of most interest to screen reader users of
this
service are that there are hotkeys, I reproduce them below.
As you will notice this will cause problems with Jaws own keyboard
shortcuts
for the web. In order to resolve this issue you will need to press
insert+V
to go into the verbosity menu and then toggle the navigation quick keys
off.
What are the keyboard shortcuts?
Answer return to Help Center
Keyboard shortcuts save you time by letting you explore Gmail quickly --
you
never have to take your hands off the keyboard to use the mouse.
To turn these case-sensitive shortcuts on or off, click 'Settings,' and
then
pick an option next to 'Keyboard shortcuts.'
Shortcut Key Definition Action
c Compose Allows you to compose a new message. <Shift> + c allows
you
to compose a message in a new window.
/ Search Puts your cursor in the search box.
k Move to newer conversation Opens or moves your cursor to a more
recent conversation. You can hit <Enter> to expand a conversation.
j Move to older conversation Opens or moves your cursor to the next
oldest conversation. You can hit <Enter> to expand a conversation.
n Next message Moves your cursor to the next message. You can hit
<Enter> to expand or collapse a message. (Only applicable in 'Conversation
View.')
p Previous message Moves your cursor to the previous message. You
can
hit <Enter> to expand or collapse a message. (Only applicable in
'Conversation View.')
o or <Enter> Open Opens your conversation. Also expands or collapses
a
message if you are in 'Conversation View.'
u Return to conversation list Refreshes your page and returns you to
the inbox, or list of conversations.
y Archive*
Remove from current view Automatically removes the message or
conversation from your current view.
a.. From 'Inbox,' 'y' means Archive
b.. From 'Starred,' 'y' means Unstar
c.. From 'Spam,' 'y' means Unmark as spam and move to 'Inbox'
d.. From 'Trash,' 'y' means move to 'Inbox'
e.. From any label, 'y' means Remove the label
'y' has no effect if you're in 'Sent' or 'All Mail.'
x Select conversation Automatically checks and selects a
conversation
so that you can archive, apply a label, or choose an action from the
drop-down menu to apply to that conversation.
s Star a message or conversation Adds or removes a star to a message
or conversation. Stars allow you to give a message or conversation a
special
status.
! Report spam Marks a message as spam and removes it from your
conversation list.
r Reply Reply to the message sender. <Shift> + r allows you to reply
to a message in a new window. (Only applicable in 'Conversation View.')
a Reply all Reply to all message recipients. <Shift> +a allows you
to
reply to all message recipients in a new window. (Only applicable in
'Conversation View.')
f Forward Forward a message. <Shift> + f allows you to forward a
message in a new window. (Only applicable in 'Conversation View.')
<Esc> Escape from input field Removes the cursor from your current
input field.
Combo-keys - Use the following combinations of keys to navigate through
Gmail. Shortcut Key Definition Action
<tab> then <Enter> Send message After composing your message, use
this
combination to send it automatically. (Supported only in Internet
Explorer.)
y then o Archive and next Archive your conversation and move to the
next one.
g then a Go to 'All Mail' Takes you to 'All Mail,' the storage site
for all mail you've ever sent or received (and have not deleted).
g then s Go to 'Starred' Takes you to all conversations you have
starred.
g then c Go to 'Contacts' Takes you to your Contacts list.
g then d Go to 'Drafts' Takes you to all drafts you have saved.
g then i Go to 'Inbox' Returns you to the inbox.
Regards.
Tristram Llewellyn
Sight and Sound Technology
Technical Support
www.sightandsound.co.uk
----- Original Message -----
From: "Moti Azrad Musician & Piano-Tuner" <motiaz@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Jfw List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 8:21 AM
Subject: [jaws-uk] gmail and Outlook Express
Hi friends,
I've created a new gmail account and it works in outlook express in my win
xp pro with Jaws6.1.
But I have noticed some things that I would like to share with you, my
friends.
First, When I send email from my gmail account to my gmail account, (to
myself) I can't see my this email in outlook but can see it in the
gmail.Google.com
website.
Can someone explain why?
Second, when I sent a media file that is found under windows files in my
c:
drive, I can't send this kind of file. I can send it from my another two
email
accounts but not with gmail.
Can someone has any reasonable explanation?
Third, gmail.google.com, is not accessible much and I think that we have
to
ask their support for that problems.
We can read some messages but can't find the delete button and can't use
other links, etc.
I hope to hear from you soon.
Thanks
Moti Azrad
Musician & Piano-Tuner
motia@xxxxxxx
motiaz@xxxxxxxxx
Moti Azrad
Musician & Piano-Tuner
motia@xxxxxxx
motiaz@xxxxxxxxx
Israel
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