[jaws-uk] Re: computers running slowly
- From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:10:27 +0100
Hi I have just digested this Post of Tristrams does this take the place of
John coley's suggestion please? I am being talked through that on phone
tonight having found the Recovery Cd, also suppose you have as I do an
external Hd,self powered in front port is it sensible to unplug this first
Thanks Dorothy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 10:08 AM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: computers running slowly
I don't think you should ever really use the old chkdsk /f on a system
running Windows as well. It is going to try and attempt to recoever
information whilst Windows is running. If you really want to check the
whole hard drive then you need to do this without Windows running.
To do this:
1 Open Start and then choose "my computer".
2 The in "my computer" locate your main hard drive which ever that
is.
3 Press alt+enter on it to open the properties of it.
4 Press control+tab to reach the "tools" page.
5 Then press spacebar on the "check now" button.
6 Then press tab to reach "automatically fix file system errors"
and press spacebar to check it.
7 Then tab to "Scan and attempt recoever of bad sectors" and press
spacebar to check this as well.
8 Tab to "OK" button and press spacebar.
9 After this Windows will complain that this cannot be done at
this time and ask if you want to schedule this for the next reboot. Tab
to the "Yes" button and press spacebar.
10 Then it is up to you to either restart the PC straight away of
shut down and start up later. Which ever you do there will a longer
than usual wait as the PC will check through the disk, this can take
quite a number of minutes for a large drive but once this is finnished
the PC will boot into windows without any human inteervention. If for
some reason it does not get into Windows you may suspect that you have a
disk problem which will either require the ministrations of something
like Spinrite or a new hard disk.
Regards.
Tristram Llewellyn
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From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of alex thynne
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 12:02 PM
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: computers running slowly
I had a terrible time with chkdsk/f, when I booted up the machine the
system
just hung, can't remember how I solved it now, but it seemed as if
chkdsk
worked for a while and then stopped. Jaws went quiet so thought I
should
reboot in case it crashed, but then my trouble started..... and I
haven't
used that since. I use defrag, C Cleaner and run the windows disk
cleanup
utility regularly.
Alex
klango ID: alex-thynne
skype name: grytpype2006
windows live messenger name: alex.thynne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of john coley
Sent: 16 October 2008 18:05
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: computers running slowly
Hi. Although I aggree to a degree it's as well to remember that
fragmentation isn't an occasional thing, it's happening all the time.
Unless
your paging file is set to clear at shutdown it will get fragmented over
time too. I think the bottom line is to encourage regular housekeeping,
not
just leaving it for weeks or months on end without any care and
attention.
Ok, I do mine every day, but it probably wouldn't suffer too much if I
only
did it once a week, but I wouldn't dream of leaving it until I removed
something. What about people who never remove anything? Those people do
exist.
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tiddy Ogg" <oggy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:15 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: computers running slowly
John, full marks for your analogy, but, even if hardware failure is
unlikely, shuffling all that data around can cause corruption, so I'd
suggest that daily defrags are excessive, especially if you don't keep
making big changes/deletions to your software.
If you notice a performance downgrade, then fair enough.
-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of john coley
Sent: 16 October 2008 17:05
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: computers running slowly
Hi Dorothy, I think the best way I could explain a defrag is this.
Imagine a
large group of children getting onto a bus. If the bus is empty they
can
all
sit together and where the teacher tells them. If though the bus is
crowded
the group is split up and can't go where the teacher wants them, and
when
it's time for them to get off the teacher has to spend time looking
for
them.
Windows knows where it wants files to be on the disk, and has indexes
of
their positions and their details, so it can find them when they're
needed.
If a file's fragmented into little pieces it takes windows time to
find
all
the bits, and sometimes one of the bits gets lost, or windows can't
find
it
in time, and then you get an error.
A disk failure's a rotten experience. I've had a couple in my time,
but I
don't think for a minute that defrag could have been to blame at all
for
it.
A disk is hardware, and windows is software. Windows errors could
cause
a
software failure, but not a hardware failure.
I've had a situation where a virus destroys a disk, but I've only
known it
once, and it may have just been coincidence that the disk failed at
the
same
time, but it was certainly a nasty experience.
I would hope that it hasn't totally put you off defragging. Without
it
your computer's going to be in a total mess in no time.
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 3:32 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: computers running slowly
John I read with interest and hope andrew will read this 2 years ago
on
my
Desktop Viglen Geni I did my first Defrag ever and with great care.
The
following day I had a HD failure, now andrew suspected the 2 may be
connected and tried to explain about Indexes whirling around fast and
suppose I may have stopped a few seconds too early I do not think I
did
but
I did have the Hd failure it and its repercussions,which were due to
Engineers making mistakes that are too awful to explain meant I
ddeveloped
a
Phobia about ever doing a Defrag. Ps I hope andrew doesnot read this
but
this year I plucked up courage to do them again with very great
caution
leaving on for hours to be sure. So perhaps John you can explain
about
these
things called Indexes whirling around the Pc so the rest can better
understand there risks Thanks Dorothy
----- Original Message -----
From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 12:44 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] computers running slowly
Hi everybody, another couple of tips that will help your computer to
keep
running as it should.
Firstly don't let cookies build up. If left to bild up they will
have
an
effect on your computer's performance. Some of them can also be
harmful.
Secondly do a defrag once a day. The less fragmented you let windows
get
the better. It's an obvious thing, but it's amazing how many times
I've
heard of people never defragmenting and wondering why they have
errors,
and
why their computer runs increasingly slower.
Lastly for now SFC. If you get error messages it's a good idea to
run
SFC,
just in case system files have been altered badly or corrupted.
To do this, put your windows cd in the drive. Shut down the welcome
screen
when it appears. Go to start and then run, and type:
sfc /scannow
You'll hear the cd power up. Windows will scan all its system files
and
replace where necessary. Jaws still works during it, so don't be
worried
about lack of speech feedback.
John.
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