[jaws-uk] Re: computers running slowly
- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:47:44 +0100
Hi,
Do people really find that running these defrag utilities make a
difference? I used to do this back in the old Windows days, but I am
used to Linux and other operating systems where this wasn't really
necessary, and I never really ran the defrag application under Windows
XP, though note that Vista does some sort of defrag automatically when
idle.
Andrew.
-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Wendy Sharpe
Sent: 16 October 2008 20:44
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: computers running slowly
Yes, I sometimes do an offline defrag, but checking usually tells me it
isn't necessary.
I also use C Cleaner to get rid of cookies, temporary files, etc.
Wendy
-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of john coley
Sent: 16 October 2008 20:13
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: computers running slowly
Hi Wendy, Diskeeper's good. I used to run it but I now use perfect disk.
Do
you ever do an offline defrag, or does background defragging do the
trick?
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wendy Sharpe" <w.sharpe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 6:15 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: computers running slowly
>I use Diskeeper from
>
> www.diskeepereurope.com
>
> This works away in the background defragging all the time, so you
don't
> have to worry about it.
>
> I do wonder whether other things might be making computers run slow.
I
> was
> recently recommended to change from AVG to Avast anti-virus, as Avast
> takes
> up much less memory and computer performance improves, but I found I
could
> not access the free home edition, as it didn't have a proper menu
system
> which JAWS could access, so I gave up on it and returned to AVG. I
have
> AVG
> Pro, which is completely accessible in the normal way with alt taking
you
> to
> the menus and normal use of cursors to get to what you want.
>
> Wendy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> Behalf Of john coley
> Sent: 16 October 2008 17:05
> To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: computers running slowly
>
> Hi Dorothy, I think the best way I could explain a defrag is this.
Imagine
> a
>
> large group of children getting onto a bus. If the bus is empty they
can
> all
>
> sit together and where the teacher tells them. If though the bus is
> crowded
> the group is split up and can't go where the teacher wants them, and
when
> it's time for them to get off the teacher has to spend time looking
for
> them.
> Windows knows where it wants files to be on the disk, and has indexes
of
> their positions and their details, so it can find them when they're
> needed.
> If a file's fragmented into little pieces it takes windows time to
find
> all
> the bits, and sometimes one of the bits gets lost, or windows can't
find
> it
> in time, and then you get an error.
> A disk failure's a rotten experience. I've had a couple in my time,
but I
> don't think for a minute that defrag could have been to blame at all
for
> it.
>
> A disk is hardware, and windows is software. Windows errors could
cause a
> software failure, but not a hardware failure.
> I've had a situation where a virus destroys a disk, but I've only
known
> it
>
> once, and it may have just been coincidence that the disk failed at
the
> same
>
> time, but it was certainly a nasty experience.
> I would hope that it hasn't totally put you off defragging. Without
it
> your computer's going to be in a total mess in no time.
> John.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 3:32 PM
> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: computers running slowly
>
>
>>
>>
>> John I read with interest and hope andrew will read this 2 years ago
on
>> my
>> Desktop Viglen Geni I did my first Defrag ever and with great care.
The
>> following day I had a HD failure, now andrew suspected the 2 may be
>> connected and tried to explain about Indexes whirling around fast and
>> suppose I may have stopped a few seconds too early I do not think I
did
>> but
>> I did have the Hd failure it and its repercussions,which were due to
>> Engineers making mistakes that are too awful to explain meant I
>> ddeveloped
>
>> a
>> Phobia about ever doing a Defrag. Ps I hope andrew doesnot read this
but
>> this year I plucked up courage to do them again with very great
caution
>> leaving on for hours to be sure. So perhaps John you can explain
about
>> these
>> things called Indexes whirling around the Pc so the rest can better
>> understand there risks Thanks Dorothy
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 12:44 PM
>> Subject: [jaws-uk] computers running slowly
>>
>>
>> Hi everybody, another couple of tips that will help your computer to
keep
>> running as it should.
>> Firstly don't let cookies build up. If left to bild up they will
have an
>> effect on your computer's performance. Some of them can also be
harmful.
>> Secondly do a defrag once a day. The less fragmented you let windows
get
>> the better. It's an obvious thing, but it's amazing how many times
I've
>> heard of people never defragmenting and wondering why they have
errors,
>> and
>> why their computer runs increasingly slower.
>> Lastly for now SFC. If you get error messages it's a good idea to
run
>> SFC,
>> just in case system files have been altered badly or corrupted.
>> To do this, put your windows cd in the drive. Shut down the welcome
>> screen
>> when it appears. Go to start and then run, and type:
>> sfc /scannow
>> You'll hear the cd power up. Windows will scan all its system files
and
>> replace where necessary. Jaws still works during it, so don't be
worried
>> about lack of speech feedback.
>> John.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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