The impression I get from the information I've read, is that you will need to install the version of jaws 6 that you'll get on CD as the quella version that you've downloaded will expire on March 15th 2005. Wally Harding RNIB Hi-tech support -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Vanja Sudar Sent: 16 December 2004 02:29 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Zero updates in about JAWS I know it's probablly far too early to ask question like this, but I'm wondering if maybe someone might know the answer: I'm obviously downloading the quella version now. When I get my CD in january or february or whenever it's going to happen, will I have to totally uninstall this quella version and install totally new coppy of jaws, or is there going to be an easier way of transfering to ILM registration? Btw, I'm also donwloading at only 2 kb/s. Vanja MSN messenger: sudar23@xxxxxxxxxxx AIM: vanja121 Skype: vanja121 http://www.sudar.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 10:03 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Zero updates in about JAWS Hi Will, See http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60 fea.asp At the very end of the page, where it provides links to Authorized Serial Numbers and downloads, you will see the following:- (I wish Americans would try write March 15th 2005 to avoid confusion with dates!) Download JAWS 6.0 List of Authorized Serial Numbers Download JAWS 6.0 Quella Version (expires 3/15/05) Choose the following link only if you purchased the Internet License Manager (ILM) version of JAWS 5.10 or if you are currently using the U.S. dongle required version of JAWS: Download JAWS 6.0 ILM Version I hope this makes things clear. George. -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Will Pearson Sent: 15 December 2004 20:54 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Zero updates in about JAWS Hi Adrian, Are you sure 6.0 has a kill date of march for quella? I can't find mention of this on FS's web site. Unless you got this under NDA and can't tell us you're source, in which case it shouldn't be public knowledge any way, can you point me to the source? Thanks Will Microsoft MVP (Visual Developer/VC++) ----- Original Message ----- From: "adrian higginbotham" <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 3:47 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Zero updates in about JAWS The FS reader demo is included in the download, it's just the training materials that are on the CD - I know I'm using it. To clarify some points re the auth system and SMA counts: The Internet licence (IL) version uses a different authorization key system than do current versions. The new IL version won't recognise old style auth disk keys in the same way that the existing system can't recognise the new IL keys. Hence there will be 2 downloads, one for quella users, and one for IL edition users. The quella edition of jfw 6 will expire in march 2005 by which time it is anticipated everyone will have been moved over to the new edition for JFW 6. as part of this move over you will have to install the new edition either from the CD or by downloading from the web if preferred. you will still be able to use your quella auth disk to authorize versions of jfw prior to version 6 locally. Adrian Higginbotham Accessibility and inclusion adviser British Educational Communications and Technology Agency - BECTA Tel: Direct dial 024 7679 7333 - Internal extension #2287 Email: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.becta.org.uk/ BECTA, Millburn Hill Road, Science Park, Coventry, CV4 7JJ -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robin Clayden Sent: 15 December 2004 15:13 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Zero updates in about JAWS Hi Joan, If you've got an SMA, and your number's on the list, then the download tonight will install and work Ok for you. From what I see, it won't have all the bells and whistles that the CD will have, like the basic training system, which is now going to be included on the actual CD Rom when it is shipped, will be in digital sound, and a free demo of the DAISY reader, Digital access info system, will also be on that disk. I would imagine your upgrade count won't be activated until you actually do the new online registration next Spring, but I may be wrong. And, hopefully, to maybe answer another batch of anxious questions I think may be on the way, after last years discussion on SMA's with Sight and Sound, if this upgrade happens to use up your last issue, then they'll let us know our agreements are needing renewed? I seem to remember Mervin saying that a new data base was being compiled with them to alert customers before they run out of upgrade counts. Cheers, Robin. -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joan Muir Sent: 15 December 2004 14:26 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Zero updates in about JAWS Yes, I have a similar problem in that my computer shows that I have no updates although I have an SMA. What I wondered was, if I downloaded the upgrade, would it be accepted or would I need the CD to amend the information? Best wishes, Joan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Drodge" <rdrodge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "JAWS" <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 1:44 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Zero updates in about JAWS Hello to all on this list, I was wondering if someone may be able to help me. I am in Canada in Newfoundland and Labrador. I am currently using JAWS 5.10 right now and on my system it says under JAWS the about JAWS section there are zero updates left. So as far as I know this means when it comes to the new version of JAWS to be able to download I can't do so. Yes my serial number is on the Freedom Scientific website but for right now I guess that I will have to wait for the CD to be sent to me. I was told by someone that I would need a new authorization disk to solve the problem of zero updates left. I don't know if this is correct or what. The question is now with the new authorization when you receive a CD that gives you a code to authorized it on the internet. Does anyone have any suggestions or will a new authorization disk or CD fix my problem. Thanks in advance. 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