[jaws-uk] Re: Word

  • From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 20:38:07 -0000

Hi Graham,

I think, that the SayCharacter script function, called when you press 5 on the numeric key pad, isn't picking the correct character from the off screen model. Everything seems to be there in the OSM, as SayLine is working, but I suspect that JAWS has a problem tracking the cursor for right aligned text under Word 2003. Hence, it's generating this problem.

You could try any of the following to see if that corrects the issue:
1) Maximise the Word application main window, by pressing alt + space and selecting maximise
2) Changing to normal view from within Word's view menu
3. Changing the zoom scale from Word's view menu
4) Changing the font and font size used in the Word document.


These are known to resolve some off screen model problems. If they don't work, this will need to be sorted out by the system side devs at FS.

Will
----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham smith" <graham.smith577@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 8:04 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Word



Hi George

Yes I have mentioned it to both Dennis and tristran.

Just wondered if anybody else could throw any light on it.

George, when I open a message from the new list I get the word "Bounce" in
the from line, is that normal.

Graham


-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of George Bell
Sent: 11 December 2004 18:17
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Word


Hi Graham,

This sounds very much like the kind of problem someone from Freedom
Scientific should perhaps be looking at more closely with you. [Tristram -
I hope your reading this, and will follow up!]


From what you describe, the problem can be clearly and easily replicated.
THAT is the kind of problem which programmers generally are able to fix.

George.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graham smith
Sent: 11 December 2004 14:57
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Word

Hi

Well, I think this is a problem that cannot be solved, nobody seems to know
what is causing it.


I have had the problem with 4.5, 5 and 5.1.

I really don't know what is causing this, everything is working fine and
then for some reason   jaws seems to switch into a different
mode, whether
it is a particular keystroke that I am using I don't know.

My latest problem is this.

I use a simple template that I use to create documents.

Its something like this, A date at the top, 7 lines down I have the word
Name typed in. A couple of lines down on the right hand side is a telephone
number a couple of lines below that in the same position is our reference
number and two lines below that same line position is typed your Ref.
Several lines below that back on the left hand margin is the word Dear, I
hope you get the idea.


Ok I open the template and arrow down until Jaws announces Name, pressing
Num Pad 5 announces the letter N.  I simply then type in the name and
address here and delete the word Name.

I now arrow down until I hear one of the next items on the right hand side,
say for instance your Ref, Pressing num pad
5 announces Y and I can move along the word hearing each individual letter.
I simply type in the reference number and delete the words Your Ref. All
very simple crude stuff.


However since the latest version of Jaws 5 things work differently
concerning anything that is not on the left hand margin.

Using the same template I arrow down to Name and this is ok but when I arrow
down to your Ref Jaws announces the words but when I press num pad 5 jaws
says blank and whatever I do I cannot find these words, jaws just keeps
announcing blank, however , pressing the say line command announces the
words.
I have now got to know that when I initially move down to the word your ref
the cursor is on the letter Y and it is ok to type in here. I have found
out that if I press num pad 5 twice quickly to announce Yankee I can now
move along the word with the likes of Oscar, uniform etc. So it appears
jaws is not recognising the letters but is recognising them when num pad 5
twice mode is switched on.


I have had a similar problem working in word within another program, much
the same as above but to find out where I an on the line I have to press num
pad 5 three times and then jaws will announce the character number for each
letter but will not announce the letter itself or the Oscar, uniform etc
node.


I hope some of this makes sense, I could go on but I wont for now.

Regards

Graham
.

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mandy Palmer
Sent: 11 December 2004 14:04
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Word

Hi there Graham

I have had the same problem, I've tried screen refresh and it sometimes put
the words back but I also use my margin location quite a lot with my work.
I find if you type the first page, it says you are 1.27cm in from the edge,
because I use a hanging indent but as soon as you go over to page 2 it says
0, as you say wherever you are in the page. I have spoken to FS and they
say they can't see the problem. I know there is one because it didn't
happen with 5, only with 5.1


Mandy

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Graham smith
Sent: 11 December 2004 12:57
To: jaws Group
Subject: [jaws-uk] Word


Trying againHi

Is anyone else experiencing navigation problems in word with the latest
version of Jaws.

I get in situations where I can read the line but I cannot navigate it by
character or word, jaws just announces blank although I know I am on a
letter.

I also get in a situation where when presseing Alt delete to find out where
I am on the line it announces 0cm from left and 0 cm from top this is
announced wherever I am on the line.


Graham



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