hi dorothy, i don't understand. the operating system uses indexes, yes. they tell the operating system where files are and how much space is allocated to them. any scan, be it a defragmentation scan, or a chkdsk, or any other scan, including those conducted by third party applications refer to those indexes. computers have always had them since the year dot. i remember in an earlier email you mentioned that an engineer or someone had referred to indexes whirling round in your computer. of course they're accessed quickly. computers work quickly.
if your computer picks up a virus it will be known about by the operating system, and therefore, dependent on the nature of the virus, ie if it was a file it would have been allocated space by the operating system, and would be on a file allocation table, but indexes or file allocatition tables don't spread viruses.
different viruses work in different ways. they will go where they're programmed to. they won't spread through your computer, although they may affect different parts of it.
john.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 3:58 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Windows update
HI John but if you do a Defrag and you say you do this daily if you had a virus wouldn't it spread through the computer with this indexing business. ----- Original Message ----- From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 9:42 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Windows updateHi Dorothy, if no bugs get onto your system system restore's fine. If you get a bug though it will go into system restore and you'll never get rid of it. Each time you run system restore it'll be back again. System restore is, in effect, just a set of configuration settings that tells windows how your system was configured on any particular day. As far as resource hungry applications goes I should think probably either sonar, which is a vertual studio firstly, and secondly, although I'm guessing here, convert x to DVD, which is a program that converts movies and burns them to dvd. John.----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx>To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:51 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Windows updateHi John, slight change of Topic but you said you do not believe in System restore or restore points why is that please? It has saved my bacon a fewtimes also if you only use Word from the Office suite, which of the programmes on your computer uses the most power, you are not using a Scanner or Ocr so which software is the one greedy for resources. I was interested the voice Daniel does not play up,I only use it in Kurzweil, but is hardto stop it reading non stop so I only use for long documents that it canread through. Thanks for your advice Dorothy----- Original Message ----- From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 12:47 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Windows updateHi Alex, you're welcome to mail me anytime. Incidentally, crashing a chkdsk isn't a good idea. Ok, if it froze you didn't have much option, but I wouldsuggest that to make sure all your system files are still ok to run sfc.John.----- Original Message ----- From: "alex thynne" <alex.thynne@xxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 11:31 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Windows updateHi John this is very interesting, I had about 19 items in my startup, I had a look at it following your message to Dorothy and I have unchecked a few of these. Interestingly I think, jaws was not in there, I don't understand why thatis, unless it's something to do with the fact that jaws doesn't take upawindow on my machine as I prefer to run it from the system tray so it'sout of the way.I'll write to you off list about this issue if you don't mind, as thereare things in there I don't recognise. Alex klango ID: alex-thynne skype name: grytpype2006 windows live messenger name: alex.thynne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of john coley Sent: 16 October 2008 10:49 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Windows update Dorothy, programs appear in the system tray because they're running. The way to clear your system tray is to stop programs loading at startup. The higher the number of programs allowed to start with windows the slower your computer's going to be. They all use up resources. The only two programs that run at startup on my computer are AVG and Jaws. There really is no reason to have everything running at startup.If you go to start, then run, type msconfig and press enter the systemconfiguration window will open. If you back tab till you're on the tabs, then arrow to the startup tab, then press tab to get onto the startup list. Everything in that list is starting with windows. The more of it you uncheck the better. If you're not happy doing it yourself you could get help doing it. When you've unchecked what you want to uncheck tab down to ok and press enter or activate with the spacebar. You'll get a prompt to reboot. clickyes. Your computer will reboot. You'll get a message when your computerstarts to say that you are running in selective mode. There's a check box to stop the message being shown again. Check it and press enter. That's it. John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:30 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Windows updateHi Tiddy I got all mine yesterday but I did look for them got Desktop firstlaptop later I hope the Updates for year 2002 will help me. I must notmix topics I know but can any person say why having a lot in the system tray holds up the computer? I am not sure if I move what is there where to put itwould it be in all Programmes I have sound ound max avg Lunar Jaws myback up for external drive something called invidia settings it says Messengernot signed in now which of those could I put elsewhere and find fast?Regards Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tiddy Ogg" <oggy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:15 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Windows updateThey're coming in now, Thursday. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq--------------------------------------------------------------------------------No virus found in this incoming message. 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