Hi John this is very interesting, I had about 19 items in my startup, I had a look at it following your message to Dorothy and I have unchecked a few of these. Interestingly I think, jaws was not in there, I don't understand why that is, unless it's something to do with the fact that jaws doesn't take up a window on my machine as I prefer to run it from the system tray so it's out of the way. I'll write to you off list about this issue if you don't mind, as there are things in there I don't recognise. Alex klango ID: alex-thynne skype name: grytpype2006 windows live messenger name: alex.thynne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of john coley Sent: 16 October 2008 10:49 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Windows update Dorothy, programs appear in the system tray because they're running. The way to clear your system tray is to stop programs loading at startup. The higher the number of programs allowed to start with windows the slower your computer's going to be. They all use up resources. The only two programs that run at startup on my computer are AVG and Jaws. There really is no reason to have everything running at startup. If you go to start, then run, type msconfig and press enter the system configuration window will open. If you back tab till you're on the tabs, then arrow to the startup tab, then press tab to get onto the startup list. Everything in that list is starting with windows. The more of it you uncheck the better. If you're not happy doing it yourself you could get help doing it. When you've unchecked what you want to uncheck tab down to ok and press enter or activate with the spacebar. You'll get a prompt to reboot. click yes. Your computer will reboot. You'll get a message when your computer starts to say that you are running in selective mode. There's a check box to stop the message being shown again. Check it and press enter. That's it. John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:30 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Windows update > > > Hi Tiddy I got all mine yesterday but I did look for them got Desktop > first > laptop later I hope the Updates for year 2002 will help me. I must not mix > topics I know but can any person say why having a lot in the system tray > holds up the computer? I am not sure if I move what is there where to put > it > would it be in all Programmes I have sound ound max avg Lunar Jaws my > back > up for external drive something called invidia settings it says > Messenger > not signed in now which of those could I put elsewhere and find fast? > Regards Dorothy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tiddy Ogg" <oggy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:15 AM > Subject: [jaws-uk] Windows update > > >> They're coming in now, Thursday. >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1727 - Release Date: 15/10/2008 > 20:02 > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. 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