[jaws-uk] Re: WILTSHIRE FARM WEBSITE

  • From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:42:28 +0100

Hi, I would say that even expecting them to test a website with more than one screen reader is going too far. What they should do is conform to access guidelines and make sure any fancy controls etc are accessible. Screen reader developers, especially ones who charge, should ensure they make a program that works. It is slightly different for open source programs obviously but I'm sure they will get there. Satogo is the best on the internet in one or two ways anyway, I think the others could learn a thing or two from the concepts. 

Cheers
Dave


----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:38 AM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: WILTSHIRE FARM WEBSITE


Hi Wendy.

Actually, while in an ideal world, programs should be accessible with all
screenreaders, do keep in mind that NVD is only in release build 0.5 so,
while open source programs are always in development, this release should be 
seen more as an important development version along the way to being first
major release version 1.0.  if you want to try a more well developed
screenreader, try System Access to go at www.satogo.com which, while not
arguing to be a full screenreader, does offer oficial support for Internet
Explorer. This is a beta version but it is the mechanism of delivering the 
screenreader over the web rather than the program itself that is in beta
here. the program system access already exists.
Secondly, why does Wiltshire foods not work? it could well be NVDA's fault as JAWS and Window-eyes users seem not to have had significant problems. I 
would say that in general, it is reasonable to expect site developers to
test their screenreaders with the most popular screenreaders, JAWS, Hal and 
Window-eyes are the 3 most used in the UK, but it would take a lot of
resource to test with all screenreaders available.

regards

Graham
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy Sharpe" <w.sharpe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: "Jaws" <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 11:57 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] WILTSHIRE FARM WEBSITE


Friends
I am trying out NVDA, which is quite good, although I don't much go for the 
voices.  I went to the Wiltshire site, but when I tried several times to
enter on the sign in link, the page refused to load and speech stopped for a 
considerable time.
I think it is important for the site developers to make Wiltshire accessible 
for all screenreaders so that every blind computer user can use it.

I have also tried the Amazon site, and that is fine.  Loading new pages
after a search works well, so if Amazon can do it, Wiltshire must be able
to.

Wendy
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